I completely agree with this statement. If you really want to see what you can build up the 4.7 to I would look at www.airram.com. I am not promoting the site or anything and I am not affiliated with them, but the owner has put together probably the only site that I know of where you can readily get high performance 4.7 parts, like pistons, cams, etc. I want to say even with all of his modifications he is running 14s. You can look up his latest track times on his site and see what you are looking at.

I don't think much of anything is left stock on his 4.7.

 

11 seconds is nutso fast, ACR Viper fast...ZR1 Corvette fast.

I always get a kick out of these threads...those who know what it takes to get a two ton truck to run 11's will just do it, and maybe post the results, or start a build thread. Same with the 4btswaps.com forums. The best build threads start with "So I just got done building my {truck}...here are the pictures!"

Those who don't know, ask what to do and why it's so hard, and probably should steer clear of this kind of project...

For example, a 2010 Viper can run 10.98 seconds at almost 128 MPH. It has 600 f*cking horsepower and weighs less than 3,500 pounds. The Corvette ZR1 makes 638 HP and runs the quarter in 11.1, weighing in at abour 3,400 pounds. Viper needs a 510 cubic inch motor to make that much power on natural aspiration. The Corvette needs a supercharger to do it on about 380 cubes.

So if you can achieve a power to weight ratio of about 5.7 pounds per HP, you might have an 11 second Dakota.

 

how much money you got to spend on a DAKOTA?????

yea that would...if they even made a stroker kit
and it isnt like the old days where you could just throw an engine in a different vehical...but the 5.9 swap would be the easiest bc dakota already had them in production...then the 5.7 would be more modern and have a better aftermarket IMO therefor better to do but cost the most

its not just throwing and engine in...the trans is bassically the only thing you could keep stock...adn after you put a motor infront of it that has WAY more power...your gonna want to build that up

true..there is a company in germany that does a 5.5L out of the dodge 4.7L but its gonna cost a **** load just to ship it to germany..and then on top of that its gonna be another 25,000 dollars to get the long block completed and then to ship it back....

thats even more money then you even want to think about....on DD.com there was a 6.7L I6 swap that ended up costing the guy 127k(rummored...i never say the reciepts)

very usefull statement.....

trucks are a hard vehical to drag...unless you have the MONEY

if i were you personally...i would start saveing up(if you dont have it) adn but a forged 408 and a built auto trans...then start looking into a custom 4-6 link rear and then a fuel system

there again...a VERY usefull statement....its gonan need alot more work then you will ever think of now to make a heavy *** dakota run 11's

just my 2 cents...im not trying to be a dick...but i was in the market to do a power swap just because my weak *** 4.7 was getting laggy(201,000 miles)....so if the moneys there...408...but if you want it to be driven daily...id look into getting a trusted mechanic to do a hemi swap...because who knows...the hemi can be later stroked to 392 and then you could vortech S/C that and then be sitting pretty good

good luck

 

its just not even close to being practical. Like cramerica said, your getting into supercar territory or drag car territory. A dakota was never meant to do that. I know its been done but were talking built and blown 408 here.

You want an 11 sec vehicle. Buy an 03-04 cobra and slap a keene bell/whipple on it. Done.

 

thats what im talking about!!!!


or you COULD dump about 15k into a foxbody and get into the low tens...and then lift the dakota to pull the stang to the drags

 

haha true

 

We could get you deep into the 14's and possibly HIGH 13's with bolt ons. I know my Quad Cab Ram which weighs 5125lbs with me in it ran 15.2 at the track a week ago in 76 degree weather. It was not the best day to race but I just brought that up to give you an idea what your attempting to do.

NOW before you criticize my times as being SLOW... mind you there where a HANDFULL of Quad Cab HEMI's running high 16's that same day.

So we are doing very well considering our current weight of 5125 lbs. Our best to date times where 9.49's & 14.99's... In a QC 4.7L RAM.

My engine in a DAKOTA would run very low 14's and possibly high 13's NA. We can help you get QUICK... and I dont care WHO YOU ARE, 13's are "QUICK" for anything on four wheels.... Sure there is always a quicker car/truck...but 13's is a very special club for a daily driver.

Here is a list of mods that would gain you the most bolt on HP without going into the engine.

1. 4.56 GEARS - depending on your tire height 410's/4.56's. Personally if your tire hight is taller then 30" tall I would lean towards 4.56's.
2. ELECTRIC FAN - FLEX-A-LITE 180 FREE = 10RWHP ... You have a factory electric fan which will keep everything cool even without the clutch fan.
3. 2008 INTAKE MANIFOLD or our SULLIVAN ALUMINUM INTAKE MANIFOLD -
4. 4.7L PERFORMANCE CAMS - H/O's, 206's or 212 Cams Im a fan of the factory H/O cams in HEAVY trucks or trucks that will be used for work or on the road oe when torque is needed most.
5. SUPERCHIPS FLASHPAQ - Great with up to 70mm throttle body and H/O cams.
SCT CUSTOM TUNE - We can custom tune most 1996-2006 Dodge Rams/Dakotas/Durangos & Jeeps... contact us for details.

6. HEADERS -
7. SINGLE 3" EXHAUST -
8. HIGH FLOW "Y" PIPE & MUFFLER -
9. 70-72MM THROTTLE BODY - F&B. Chose the largest Throttle body you can tune for. (70mm for Superchips & 72mm for SCT custom tune)
10. RACE PORTED HEADS -
11. CUSTOM PROGRAMMER - SCT CUSTOM TUNE (Needed with PORTED HEADS & or 206, 212, 212x, 218 or greater custom cams & or 72mm throttle body)
12. 2800 STALL CONVERTER - This will get you off the line quicker by allowing your engine to rev to approx 2800 before the transmission engages... Under part throttle would would not notice much of a difference at all... but put your foot down and the RPM's will rocket to the desired RPM getting you closer to your RPM power band.

If you have any questions please feel free to contact me.

SPEED SAFE, AIR RAM

 

Good post. And that comment is very true. People always want this 11sec car, but don't always realize how fast that is. If you've ever driven a car with that power, its nuts. 13sec vehicles are quick, maybe not ***** to the walls fast, but its still quick.

And if the OP wants a quick truck, I think you gave him a great starting point with those mods. I think he said he was a 5 speed so he wouldn't need the stall, but everything else is good.

 

did we scare him away?


even if he had a 5 speed

hed probably want to look into making it a lil stonger....JMO