1998 dakota 2.5 Bored .060 over, Trouble Code P1391
When you changed to the 4.0 throttle body did you swap over the TPS, MAP, IAC and the IAC body?
You must do this or it will idle weird on you
You must move the 2.5 TB parts from it to the 4.0 TB and to do this you must cut off the 2.5 IAC body manifold key if you look at both you can see what I'm talking about
One thing I noticed in one of your Pic's is you inserted the air temp sensor in the wrong hole now I don't think it should make a difference but at this time the little things may be killing you and that is the #4 intake port it normally is in the # 3 port.
You must do this or it will idle weird on you
You must move the 2.5 TB parts from it to the 4.0 TB and to do this you must cut off the 2.5 IAC body manifold key if you look at both you can see what I'm talking about
One thing I noticed in one of your Pic's is you inserted the air temp sensor in the wrong hole now I don't think it should make a difference but at this time the little things may be killing you and that is the #4 intake port it normally is in the # 3 port.
cut off the manifold key?
So this morning, i changed plugs/wires from #4 to #3, Aaaand #4 is still misfiring, im just puzzled how it could read 125psi and misfire ALL THE TIME
Swapping the plugs/wires, totally eliminates the wire/plug to that cylinder being a possible issue
Lifters are Good, rockers function perfectly, and i read theres no lash adjustments due to hydraulic lifter
Distributor is not a possible issue (Possibly the Cap, but i wouldnt think so)
No P1391 (Cam sensor) code now, just P0304 (Cyl 4 misfire)
Can i take out the fuel rail w/ injectors, point it away from the engine and Watch the injectors spray??? That would 100% establish - Fuel delivery
I sprayed the intake/ehaust gasket and intake area for any signs of vacuum leaks, and not a single change in RPM's
I suppose im gonna do another compression reading today to see if theres any change from 125psi on #4, im still looking for someone with a cylinder leak down tester
AAAANNND just for ****s n giggles, im gonna put the 2.5TB back on juuuust to see what happens, at this point, it could be the most retarded thing EVER
Swapping the plugs/wires, totally eliminates the wire/plug to that cylinder being a possible issue
Lifters are Good, rockers function perfectly, and i read theres no lash adjustments due to hydraulic lifter
Distributor is not a possible issue (Possibly the Cap, but i wouldnt think so)
No P1391 (Cam sensor) code now, just P0304 (Cyl 4 misfire)
Can i take out the fuel rail w/ injectors, point it away from the engine and Watch the injectors spray??? That would 100% establish - Fuel delivery
I sprayed the intake/ehaust gasket and intake area for any signs of vacuum leaks, and not a single change in RPM's
I suppose im gonna do another compression reading today to see if theres any change from 125psi on #4, im still looking for someone with a cylinder leak down tester
AAAANNND just for ****s n giggles, im gonna put the 2.5TB back on juuuust to see what happens, at this point, it could be the most retarded thing EVER
Last edited by Bigboi407; Dec 23, 2013 at 09:58 AM.
I know its a triple post, but im soo damn aggravated with this
it just drove about 15 miles, it started on 3 cylinders, half way to my destination i noticed that it was running on 4, i get a Block from my destination, confirmed it was running on 4, then pulled up to my destination after down shifting, to hear it idle on 3 cylinders
it just drove about 15 miles, it started on 3 cylinders, half way to my destination i noticed that it was running on 4, i get a Block from my destination, confirmed it was running on 4, then pulled up to my destination after down shifting, to hear it idle on 3 cylinders
Ive been looking up P0304 all morning and some people had bent push rods and some ppl had locked lifters, bad injectors and another was something about a TB....
the thing is, its effect isnt the Same EVERY TIME... Sometimes it may shake much harder, sometimes shakes just lightly, then when it goes away, obviously nothing shakes, but this is Very Very strange
Today it has ran more on 4 cylinders than on 3 cylinders
Im going to swap out the Crank sensor just because i have another one, i dont expect a change in result, but ill give it a shot
I may even try swapping out Rockers/connecting rods on #4 with what i have from the head i pulled (Even if the head isnt a problem, i can still sell it for more than what i paid)
Last edited by Bigboi407; Dec 23, 2013 at 05:03 PM.
Because its been running on 4 cylinders ALOT today, im leaning more towards something on the electrical/ignition side
But being a 2.5 doesnt the main coil that go to the Dizzy throw spark for the distributor, it doesnt throw spark to a specific cylinder, so the coil cant be bad...
I have seen where coils do quit producing spark at weird times in weird intervals. Mechanical things aren't intermittent- either they work, or they are broken. Electrical things rarely break- they just quit working, then start working, then quit working, then start working....
I have seen where coils do quit producing spark at weird times in weird intervals. Mechanical things aren't intermittent- either they work, or they are broken. Electrical things rarely break- they just quit working, then start working, then quit working, then start working....
Ignition coil is $29.99
Dizzy cap is $9.00
Rotor is $9.00
Aaand idk if the ECM going bad is a possibility, but i need to solve this ASAP before that truck gets pulled out of their yard, they are VERY hard to find
EDIT: Just did a Fuel pressure test, it was 50psi, but was bouncing between 47/48 to 50psi in idle, then if i pushed the throttle, it would stabilize and stay steady at 50psi
Last edited by Bigboi407; Dec 24, 2013 at 10:23 AM.









