7 different error codes at once
#11
I didn't see you mention the coil.
Have a 2000 blazer v6 mileage went to s**t.
Didn't check the codes but the check engine light was blinking as I would drive it. Wouldn't pull a greased string out of a cat's a$*. Was dangerous to pull out on the road.
Popped the hood one night and the thing was lighting up like a Christmas tree.
Had to replace coil, plug wires, rotor button and cap. Disconnected battery to clear trouble codes and so the engine/computer could learn the new parts. No trouble since that was 9 months ago.
#12
I did not do the coil just for $$ reasons at the time of the tune up. I am going back to do that next. .
When I checked the pcm plugs the other day. ... it cleared the codes. . I got a little excited there for a minute when I saw the light off but then I realized what happened. . Anyway. ... The light came back on but now its only reading two codes (for now anyway) p0174 and p0442. .
Would that indicate the 0174 is the primary fault and all others stem off of it?
When I checked the pcm plugs the other day. ... it cleared the codes. . I got a little excited there for a minute when I saw the light off but then I realized what happened. . Anyway. ... The light came back on but now its only reading two codes (for now anyway) p0174 and p0442. .
Would that indicate the 0174 is the primary fault and all others stem off of it?
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Just rereading through the thread.
In post #10 about the "mass flow" if you mean MAF, we don't have them. It use a MAP sensor instead.
Your question in post #12 about the P0174 codes and others following, it does not mean P0174 is the "primary" fault. They just get displayed in numeric order.
Ohming out the injector won't tell you if it's bad always. It may be fine electrically but the nozzle could be clogged or have a very poor spray pattern.
Are you showing the same codes? If it's the P0174 have you changed the O2 sensor? Don't use Bosch.
In post #10 about the "mass flow" if you mean MAF, we don't have them. It use a MAP sensor instead.
Your question in post #12 about the P0174 codes and others following, it does not mean P0174 is the "primary" fault. They just get displayed in numeric order.
Ohming out the injector won't tell you if it's bad always. It may be fine electrically but the nozzle could be clogged or have a very poor spray pattern.
Are you showing the same codes? If it's the P0174 have you changed the O2 sensor? Don't use Bosch.
#17
Just rereading through the thread.
In post #10 about the "mass flow" if you mean MAF, we don't have them. It use a MAP sensor instead.
Your question in post #12 about the P0174 codes and others following, it does not mean P0174 is the "primary" fault. They just get displayed in numeric order.
Ohming out the injector won't tell you if it's bad always. It may be fine electrically but the nozzle could be clogged or have a very poor spray pattern.
Are you showing the same codes? If it's the P0174 have you changed the O2 sensor? Don't use Bosch.
In post #10 about the "mass flow" if you mean MAF, we don't have them. It use a MAP sensor instead.
Your question in post #12 about the P0174 codes and others following, it does not mean P0174 is the "primary" fault. They just get displayed in numeric order.
Ohming out the injector won't tell you if it's bad always. It may be fine electrically but the nozzle could be clogged or have a very poor spray pattern.
Are you showing the same codes? If it's the P0174 have you changed the O2 sensor? Don't use Bosch.
I have held off getting the O2 sensor for 2 reasons. 1st I just didn't think it would cause a electronic malfunction and 2nd from my understanding 9 out of 10 times a bad 02 sensor code is a result of another problem not the cause of one. (Not saying it wouldn't go bad. .. but usually it is something else)
Is there a way to test the computer? There should be a constant hot wire on the injector. Correct? If that is the case, could I turn the key on and check voltage?
Last edited by ppidgursky; 07-27-2014 at 08:14 AM.
#18
I find your reason for not
bizarre and founded on nothing.
To me a bad PCM sounds like a good possibility
I would follow what 00DakDan suggests I would also say I have never seen the injectors as being the problem in most cases bad spray yes but outright bad no.
getting the O2 sensor
To me a bad PCM sounds like a good possibility
I would follow what 00DakDan suggests I would also say I have never seen the injectors as being the problem in most cases bad spray yes but outright bad no.
Last edited by 98DAKAZ; 07-27-2014 at 08:47 AM.
#19
Only with the engine running is there a constant hot to the injectors. The ground is switched to trigger them. If the engine isn't running the ASD relay will cut power.
There is no real way to test the PCM. It does "self test" and can check for a bad checksum which will display a code. A DRB (dealer) can look at more of it but it's probably cheaper to get a rebuilt unit online and swap it yourself.
At this point I'd be swapping the PCM and the O2 sensor. Not necessarily in that order.
You did swap the coil, right?
There is no real way to test the PCM. It does "self test" and can check for a bad checksum which will display a code. A DRB (dealer) can look at more of it but it's probably cheaper to get a rebuilt unit online and swap it yourself.
At this point I'd be swapping the PCM and the O2 sensor. Not necessarily in that order.
You did swap the coil, right?
Last edited by 00DakDan; 07-27-2014 at 10:10 AM.
#20
It is founded. It is founded on experience, multiple conversations with dealers, mechanics and other people who had O2 sensor issues.
Regardless. ...
Thank you for the responses. I fear it's time to start looking for the PCM.
Regardless. ...
Thank you for the responses. I fear it's time to start looking for the PCM.