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Old Jul 20, 2015 | 08:22 PM
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Thanks man, I just purchased the unit and will install it. Will keep you posted on how things go. Appreciate the help.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 05:20 PM
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Ok so I just installed new clutch slave master cyclinder. Still the same thing. Very soft clutch and still cannot shift gears with engine on. I bled the slave alot and it would not get stiffer. Only option is to take it into a shop and have them fix it which I do not want to do.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 08:04 PM
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Did you do anything to the original master/slave cylinder, disconnect it or anything when you changed the clutch?

If no, and are having the same problem now, there is the possibility that:

1. The parts you used were not correct - such as the pressure plate or clutch disc
2. Something is not installed correctly

Did you resurface the flywheel? Please say "no."
 
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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 10:49 AM
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Just how did you bleed the slave as the units can not be bleed they are sealed units if pulled apart they will never work correct and give you many problems like a soft clutch no pressure.


So I ask just how did you bleed it??


The problem is if taken apart air gets in and cant get out as its a very tricky system air gets trapped inside and will not come out.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 12:05 PM
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How times have I told people don't take it apart and what do they do take it apart then wonder why the clutch doesn't work.


What part of don't take it apart is hard to understand? Its sealed for a very good reason.


Old hydraulic systems could be bleed but not the new systems and trying to swap in a system that can be bleed will not work many on this forum have tried with very bad results.


Buying the one piece system is the only answer swapping in a slave that can be bleed doesn't work.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 12:54 PM
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All the auto parts stores around me sell them as separate pieces. So I am trying to find the complete set and will install it.

Thanks for the help
 
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Old Aug 21, 2015 | 06:21 PM
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Not familiar with the clutch on a Dakota, but on some chevys, its possible to put the fork in the slot of the release bearing. If this is done, and not put on the back of the bearing, it will act as you described. Its soft and will not release.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2015 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Nickjung
All the auto parts stores around me sell them as separate pieces. So I am trying to find the complete set and will install it.

Thanks for the help
This is your issue. Do NOT piecemeal the system. Get the whole damn thing from the dealer and be done with it.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2016 | 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 98DAKAZ
Just how did you bleed the slave as the units can not be bleed they are sealed units if pulled apart they will never work correct and give you many problems like a soft clutch no pressure.


So I ask just how did you bleed it??


The problem is if taken apart air gets in and cant get out as its a very tricky system air gets trapped inside and will not come out.
Not sure if you fixed this yet but I've delt with this problem myself, the one piece master/slave can be blead outside the truck using gravity put the resivor at the highest point and lay everything else below it strait as you can make sure its full of fluid and tap the lines a little to let all the bubbles flow to the top, (leave it over night if need be)I couldn't find a one piece so I used a slave from a 2000 Dakota with a blead valve.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2016 | 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Nickjung
Ok so I just installed new clutch slave master cyclinder. Still the same thing. Very soft clutch and still cannot shift gears with engine on. I bled the slave alot and it would not get stiffer. Only option is to take it into a shop and have them fix it which I do not want to do.
clutch problem I found an easy way to figure out what's wrong, I unbolted the bell housing from the transmission then bolted it up to the engine like it goes with the clutch, bolted up the slave and had someone press the clutch wile I watched what it was doing, I had to use a socket extension in place of the input shaft to guide everything strait like it should go, in my case the bolts that I used to bolt the clutch flex plate to the flywheel weren't threaded all the way so when torqued they bottomed out without pulling the flex plat all the way to the flywheel, so when the pedal was pressed felt soft like it needed to be blead but the flex plate was pulling away from the flywheel. Hope this helps.
 
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