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Old May 25, 2022 | 02:45 PM
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2001 4x4 club cab dakota
a little back story first.
Bought in November last yearReplaced hubs and rear wheel bearingsReplaced entire brake system ( due to steel lines rotted through )
Replaced all half shafts and front driveshaftReplaced intermediate steering shaft
Took truck for alignment and ride height adjustment back to factory specs in early January
Truck pulled hard right took it off the road to further inspect why.
Found the ride height out of adjustment by almost 2 inches in the front and set it per dodge spec. Truck tracked in a straight line afterwards but there was visible alignment issues with camber and toe.

Had it realigned today i will include the results sheet.
Question is i need ideas as to why its pulling hard right again...

 
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Old May 25, 2022 | 07:23 PM
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Has the truck been in a accident? Is this aftermarket front end parts? Check the control arms and frame for damage. Focus on where the torsion bar connects. Check the torsion keys and make sure they haven't been installed wrong or replaced with incorrect parts. I'm betting the problem is with the lower control arm or the passenger torsion bar.
 
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Old May 25, 2022 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by supadoom
Has the truck been in a accident? Is this aftermarket front end parts? Check the control arms and frame for damage. Focus on where the torsion bar connects. Check the torsion keys and make sure they haven't been installed wrong or replaced with incorrect parts. I'm betting the problem is with the lower control arm or the passenger torsion bar.
No signs of accident. Front to rear wheel center to center match side side so the frame is square. Parts that were replaced are moog factory replacements as mopar parts are getting hard to find. Control arms are original with just bushings and ball joints being replaced. Torsion keys havent been removed or replaced have factory stampings on them.
 
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Old May 25, 2022 | 07:39 PM
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Just to make sure I understand, after getting the ride height level on both sides the passenger tire has too much camber correct? Or is it both sides? If its only one side I would pull the passenger lower control arm and check for any bends. Also double check the bushings. If they aren't seated 100% you can get some wonky alignment. If its both sides I would look into whether the parts are correct or have some incompatibility. MOOG has a reputation for claiming "factory replacement" while also making changes to the design. Sometimes these changes are not compatible. On my escape I had to grind away part of the sway bar linkage because MOOG added extra metal where the factory one was thin.
 
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When you did the brakes, did you replace the soft lines as well?
 
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Old May 26, 2022 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by supadoom
Just to make sure I understand, after getting the ride height level on both sides the passenger tire has too much camber correct? Or is it both sides? If its only one side I would pull the passenger lower control arm and check for any bends. Also double check the bushings. If they aren't seated 100% you can get some wonky alignment. If its both sides I would look into whether the parts are correct or have some incompatibility. MOOG has a reputation for claiming "factory replacement" while also making changes to the design. Sometimes these changes are not compatible. On my escape I had to grind away part of the sway bar linkage because MOOG added extra metal where the factory one was thin.
Just the drivers side has too much camber. And its pulling right
 
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Old May 26, 2022 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by HeyYou
When you did the brakes, did you replace the soft lines as well?
Yes the entirety of the brake system is brand new. And with the exception of the steel lines everything in the brake system is mopar parts
 
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Old May 26, 2022 | 08:29 PM
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If the camber is on the driver side then you will want to look on that side. Make sure both control arms aren't bent or loose. Also look for any bends in frame where they bolt in. I've never personally seen an upper control arm get bent. Usually its the lowers from people hitting a rock or something. If it is a bent control arm it would have to be the upper on that side.
 
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Does it pull to the right all the time, or just when you brake? Have you lifted the front and spun the wheels? Are front rotor temps about the same or is one hotter than the other after a drive.
 
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Originally Posted by Dodgevity
Does it pull to the right all the time, or just when you brake? Have you lifted the front and spun the wheels? Are front rotor temps about the same or is one hotter than the other after a drive.
Pull is constant. All rotating parts in front end are brand new (ie less than 2000 mile) fluids inner and outer half shafts hubs and rotors. Its not in the brake system as every bit of it is brand new as well all done at the same time. There is no play in the ball joints or tie rod ends. Visibly i see nothing bent. Per the response above yours the frame is straight and dimensional correct to factory specs. My next option from everything i can see is new upper and lower control arms. 2 alignment shops same return. Ant the frame shop says the frame is straight.
 
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