They do come with new upper ball joints. As far as the 4" plan, good luck! Not only will getting that spring in, with the spacer, be nearly impossible, your alignment would be so completely out of whack, that you would never be able to get back into spec. Your front tries would have an outrageous positive camber. Getting the 3" spring into the new upper control arm was a PITA all by itself. I ended up having to use an eight foot crow bar (I lovingly call it the "persuader") and have a friend slowly jack up the lower control arm. Once I finally got it set into place (roughly 2 hours later, per spring) I then had to use a smaller crow bar to wedge out the larger one. With that said, trying to get a 4" total spring lift into the STOCK upper control arm would be quite a job... I can only imagine. What you have to keep in mind is that when you are using larger springs and spacers with the stock control arm, you are only pushing the lower control arm away from the upper control arm at an angle which it wasn't intended for. This is why you get the terrible camber situation. The new upper control arm made by Fabtech compensates for this angle, allowing you to lift it and remain in spec.



Can you do the lift you were talking about? Sure. Would you want to? Only if you like self-punishment. You will burn through tires more often than engine swaps are talked about in this forum. If you want a reliable, dailt driver setup after you do this lift, either do the leveling kit they provide, or do the full suspension lift they provide. I am not trying to **** in your corn flakes, but I am trying to save you a big hassle.

 

10/4, well understood and thank's for knocking some scence into me. It is very much appriciated. I guess I'll have to save my pennies and go with the 3" or a 4" suspension lift when time allows. If any of you ever pass by my house and see me selling lemon aid in the yard can ya stop buy and buy a cup. That would be appriciated also.
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