Gas fill overflow on my 06 durango
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From: Woodland Park, CO
Definitely hope Dodge steps up and fixes this problem for everyone. I will get a video of it happening, I don't mind spewing a little gas for the better good! Thank God I rarely fill it up, since I usually stop when it reaches $50.
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From: Green Ohio
Hey guys, not much more news at this moment, than this defect is being worked on constantly. Like TJ said, file with the NHTSA and also send your info to Sean at http://www.safetyresearch.net/contact-us/. He works directly with the NHTSA and has been instrumental in helping vehicle owners with safety defects in the past.
What is helpful is if you can provide him with as much information as possible and a way to contact you back. He's aware of this forum and the threads we have here and is monitoring what we're talking about in regards to the D's and the issues we've encountered with Dodge on this.
Keep reporting to NHTSA and safety research so they can do their job and get a true resolution on this. Also keep in mind, regardless of the year of your D or the mileage, this is a safety defect and we're shooting for a recall to fix it, so if you've had your's fixed, keep the receipts, if it's still doing it or starts to do it they need to know.
What is helpful is if you can provide him with as much information as possible and a way to contact you back. He's aware of this forum and the threads we have here and is monitoring what we're talking about in regards to the D's and the issues we've encountered with Dodge on this.
Keep reporting to NHTSA and safety research so they can do their job and get a true resolution on this. Also keep in mind, regardless of the year of your D or the mileage, this is a safety defect and we're shooting for a recall to fix it, so if you've had your's fixed, keep the receipts, if it's still doing it or starts to do it they need to know.
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Been there and done that. Filed my compliant with NHTSA (heard nothing), sent a lengthy letter to Dodge corporate - recieved lip servcie in return. It's clear that they are in deny, deny, deny mode with respect to the issue.
Interestingly enough, I really believe that this is a structural design issue with the tank as oppossed to the filler tube. When I had mine fixed last year, the first "fix" completely eradicated the overflow problem by instituting the reverse. I couldn't get gas INTO the darn tank. Every .50 or 1.00 worth of gas resulted in the pump kicking off. Try filling up a 22 gallon tank by the dropfuls. It literally took four tanks and two filler tubes before it finally was made right.
But yet, there is no problem according to Dodge. $1,000 in parts/labor and countless money on rentals while the shop diagonosed the problem (fortunately, the dealership fronted the rentals since I was understandably hopping mad).
Interestingly enough, I really believe that this is a structural design issue with the tank as oppossed to the filler tube. When I had mine fixed last year, the first "fix" completely eradicated the overflow problem by instituting the reverse. I couldn't get gas INTO the darn tank. Every .50 or 1.00 worth of gas resulted in the pump kicking off. Try filling up a 22 gallon tank by the dropfuls. It literally took four tanks and two filler tubes before it finally was made right.
But yet, there is no problem according to Dodge. $1,000 in parts/labor and countless money on rentals while the shop diagonosed the problem (fortunately, the dealership fronted the rentals since I was understandably hopping mad).
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On my 2006 D Limited, Dodge did an inspection and determined that it has the identical characteristics of the 2005 Dodge Durango's under recall (those are only the one manufactured up until November 30, 2004) and further they proved it is the vent (ballast) at the bottom of the filler tube inside the tank that is not closing, this causes the gas to shoot out of the fill tube.
Dodge Corporate refuses to assist with this problem, the dealership offered half. Since then I've contacted the EPA in regards to this problem (fuel spillage of 1 gallon per week per vehicle is a lot of fuel spilled on the ground a year) and have filed a complaint with the NHTSA.
In addition, I did one more thing to help us out with this, I contacted Sean Kane at safetyresearch.net. You may not recognize this individual, however he was one of the individuals who's organization worked towards getting the firestone/explorer recall and the Toyota gas pedal recall. He has taken a look at the Dodge Durango/Dakota/Aspen issue and the information being found is startling.
Dodge anticipated less than 20% of the vehicles in the recall would have the problem. As of September 30th, 2010 the vehicles inspected had an approximate failure rate of 52%. In September 2006 the failure rate was approximately 22%. That's a 30% increase roughly over 4 years as the vehicles are tested.
Dodge has made it clear that they will not do anything on this issue until forced to do so by the NHTSA. So, I think it's time that we ban together. Mr. Kane can use contact from all of the Durango/Dakota/Aspen owners on this issue and if you have a video of your vehicle spewing gas out it's tank then it would be great. (Do NOT go out and attempt to replicate the problem just to get a video, it's dangerous to have these trucks do this.)
Note guys, this can be as many as 740,000 vehicles affected with this issue and it is appearing by data as these vehicles age more and more of them are failing. The cost to Dodge to fix this problem once and for all at the current failure rate of 52%(approx) is roughly 1/2 a billion dollars for vehicles in the United States alone.
And if you think this isn't worth getting involved in, just remember this:
Everytime you fill up or you see a Durango/Dakota/Aspen pull into a gas station to refuel you carry a risk of 52% of that vehicle spewing fuel out and a potential explosion happening.
It's time we work together to force a true resolution of this problem. It appears to affect all vehicles from 2004 to 2007 currently. You can contact Mr. Kane at:
http://www.safetyresearch.net/contact-us/
I'm sure he will be thrilled to hear from each and every one of us. I've already sent him the video of mine spewing.
Dodge Corporate refuses to assist with this problem, the dealership offered half. Since then I've contacted the EPA in regards to this problem (fuel spillage of 1 gallon per week per vehicle is a lot of fuel spilled on the ground a year) and have filed a complaint with the NHTSA.
In addition, I did one more thing to help us out with this, I contacted Sean Kane at safetyresearch.net. You may not recognize this individual, however he was one of the individuals who's organization worked towards getting the firestone/explorer recall and the Toyota gas pedal recall. He has taken a look at the Dodge Durango/Dakota/Aspen issue and the information being found is startling.
Dodge anticipated less than 20% of the vehicles in the recall would have the problem. As of September 30th, 2010 the vehicles inspected had an approximate failure rate of 52%. In September 2006 the failure rate was approximately 22%. That's a 30% increase roughly over 4 years as the vehicles are tested.
Dodge has made it clear that they will not do anything on this issue until forced to do so by the NHTSA. So, I think it's time that we ban together. Mr. Kane can use contact from all of the Durango/Dakota/Aspen owners on this issue and if you have a video of your vehicle spewing gas out it's tank then it would be great. (Do NOT go out and attempt to replicate the problem just to get a video, it's dangerous to have these trucks do this.)
Note guys, this can be as many as 740,000 vehicles affected with this issue and it is appearing by data as these vehicles age more and more of them are failing. The cost to Dodge to fix this problem once and for all at the current failure rate of 52%(approx) is roughly 1/2 a billion dollars for vehicles in the United States alone.
And if you think this isn't worth getting involved in, just remember this:
Everytime you fill up or you see a Durango/Dakota/Aspen pull into a gas station to refuel you carry a risk of 52% of that vehicle spewing fuel out and a potential explosion happening.
It's time we work together to force a true resolution of this problem. It appears to affect all vehicles from 2004 to 2007 currently. You can contact Mr. Kane at:
http://www.safetyresearch.net/contact-us/
I'm sure he will be thrilled to hear from each and every one of us. I've already sent him the video of mine spewing.
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Joined: Jun 2006
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From: Indiana
If this doesn't happen on day one off the showroom floor... and instead develops only after a few years... then obviously something has changed. A rubber vent tube that has deteriorated and collapsed is the most likely thing. A metal filler neck that works and then doesn't with nothing changing in the metal isn't it. I can't imagine why they can't figure this out or why any one of the backyard mechanics can't find the culprit either.
Best wishes guys. That has to be very frustrating much less being dangerous. I would be pissed and have mine torn down in tiny pieces until I figured out the problem and solution.
IndyDurango
Best wishes guys. That has to be very frustrating much less being dangerous. I would be pissed and have mine torn down in tiny pieces until I figured out the problem and solution.
IndyDurango
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If it helps anyone, the parts replaced to correct this "issue" are:
5140388-AE (TANK FUEL 14086001)
55366298-AA (O RING FU 14099003)
This is information pulled from my repair sheet after having the fuel tank replaced on my 2006 Durango.
Also listed on the sheet is this: TSB# 14-001-09
I searched for that, and found this:
http://www.ramforumz.com/archive/index.php/t-45647.html
5140388-AE (TANK FUEL 14086001)
55366298-AA (O RING FU 14099003)
This is information pulled from my repair sheet after having the fuel tank replaced on my 2006 Durango.
Also listed on the sheet is this: TSB# 14-001-09
I searched for that, and found this:
http://www.ramforumz.com/archive/index.php/t-45647.html
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2007 spew gas at fueling
My 2007 Durango made it 60000 miles before the fueling issue started. I'm at the gas station filling the tank and just as the pump shuts off gas comes spewing out, a large amount, with force. At first I thought it was the pump, it wasn't. It's the vehicle and there's a problem. Of course my warranty has expired. This seems like a huge safety issue. So now I just guess the amount of gas I'll need and shut the pump off before the tank is full. Not happy!!!!
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From: Pittsburgh, PA
Most gas stations have a device on the handle that allows you to fill up without holding the nozzle. So, you can sit in the cat with the key in the ignition and turn it to the 'accessories' position and watch the needle climb to full. When it gets close to full just jump out and remove the nozzle. You may want to touch the side of the car before hand to expel any static electricity, atleast that is what the sign says to do in PA stations,
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