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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 02:24 AM
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y loose wont it boost it up more?
 
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 11:29 PM
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y loose wont it boost it up more?
y loose? Why tight? ... Anyway, no, 103 octane probably would hurt your performance more than anything in our Neons. The only time it would help would be in an SRT4 or a Subaru WRX STI or something, where a turbo is building extra compression to help explode the 103 octane. The higher the octane rating, the slower the fuel will burn, and the more compression and heat is needed to burn the fuel efficiently. Our naturally asperated engines in our SXT's would run on 103 octane, but not as well. 87 and 89 are fine for our motors. The only reason that turbo/supercharged engines or extremely high compression race engines runoptimallyon Alcohol/Ethanol is because it won't grenadethe engine under extreme heat and pressure. Fill up an SRT4 with 87 octane and floor it, and you'll blow the motor in 2 seconds flat.

And by the way "neon 05," if you're American and your keyboard is functioning properly and you speak English, then act like it. I'm getting sick of reading all of your "BLING BLING" posts that barely make any sense. Use spell check and periods and commas. Maybe read a dictonary or a thesaurus. Just quit posting back to me like I'm from the ghetto, because I'm not.I don't respect the arrogant, uncool lack of grammar in your posts... some of them are borderlined disrespectful because of it.
 
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 04:05 AM
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The chips, resistors, and other assorted IAT mods do not work. Its been proven over and over that simply "tricking" the PCM into thinking the intake temperature is lower then it is to increase fuel does not increase power because your not adding increased air flow into the mixture, and without the increased air flow the PCM re-adjusts automatically from its preset Fuel/Spark look-up tables located in the PCM's memory. This process takes mere seconds for the PCM to read the data its recieving, calculate, look-up, and re-adjust...Pehaps on much older vehicles like OBDI and prior, but the SBEC and NGC are programmed too well and have far too much adaptive programming for such an insignificant thing to increase power, even in a short period of time.

As for running higher octane, even with a ton of mods a S4RE Neon doesnt need anything over 89 octane. For an R/T, 92+ is recommended, but thats because of timing and PCM programming. You wont even have to consider worring about knock until you reach the 170+wtq range.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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Well in that case then, let's just cut the IAT sensor off completely and tape the wires up. We don't need it at all and it's just dead weight... errr, no.

On a lighter note, I actually do agree with everything you have to say about it. But there is just more too it than that with an almost infinite number of possibilities. I could go into further detail, like why not to leave the 4.7k-ohm in the IAT loop constantly... because when I did that for 10,000 miles, three things happened:

I got a constant, severe "dead spot" in my hp curve between 4500 and 5500 rpms...
My overall power just seemed to lag a bit.
... I got a constant 45 mpg on the highway.

I took the resistor out and reset the ECU again, and haven't put it back in since, and everything has been "normal" since. There are advantages and disadvantages to altering almost any of the analog signals running into the ECU... like I said, I agree with what you have to say about it, but there is simply more to it than that.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 10:01 PM
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chill out. it was a simple question and people give opinions..Damn ,chill the hell out
 
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 10:17 PM
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chill out. it was a simple question and people give opinions..Damn ,chill the hell out
I'm not steamed at 03neonRT. In fact, most of what he said wasn't even opinion; it was more factual than anything. But the same is true about my argument. Like I said, I agree with what 03neonRT's facts, but I also agree with mine. And even though I am saying that yes, there is a way to use a resistor trick in the IAT circuit and make it work (a little bit), I am not currently usingone because it is simply a pain in theass to run wires back and forth and switch it on and off when you want to use it... and if you forget to switch it off anddriveouta tank of gas, your ECU learns to defeat it and starts to build ajacked up fuel/spark map...

That being said, I agree with what most people in here have had to say about... and I'm chilled. [sm=wootwoot.gif]
 
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 02:19 AM
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pt a lil too much fruity dacquires there buddy easy on the racial remarks relax redneck, iam more american then you can ever be dunt be trying to tell me how to speak or judge my quick keyboarding typin then you need to hop off the skate board and chat with more people and put your fatty **** to excerise..dunt be a hater and get bad rep here this aint a site to be conseeded or to rag on people rides mybe some of us aint bless with spoiled parents or have hidden money and make miracles over nite , if you cant take a joke or love to bash people who wants a sick ride in slow mo time then theres always 2gen.org or xtremeneons.com this site dunt need people to rag on people who had no right to feel misrable about themself.


i dunno about you bro you and your friend airwolf need to chill out on bashing on peoples opinions i dunt seeno masterpieces to bow downon your gallery so you on the same page as all of us just b/c you read the dealer brochure,and the owners manuel or the neon for dummys noveldunt means your the **** , man you need to chill out ...
 
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 03:03 AM
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true american dunt get it twisted..am half native american and white = pure american breed..
 
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 03:56 AM
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haha..nice bro..so to end this thread. Dont waste the money, go buy yourself a nice cd or something.lol
 
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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lol thanx bro some one has to speak up for the rest of us here is not fair we want to ask quest and we get bash because they read it in a fortune cookie so theythink they aregeniuses!

but to turn a new page , i wanted to know if it was true or not b'c i had a chip but not in the air line senor!
 
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