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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 01:34 AM
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Rear disc conversion would probably be A good swap once you factor in the clearance of the knuckle for wider rubber. Them SRT boy are stuffing 225 and 235 tires up in there.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 04:39 AM
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Rear disc conversion would probably be A good swap once you factor in the clearance of the knuckle for wider rubber. Them SRT boy are stuffing 225 and 235 tires up in there.
1, you missed my point... drums in the rear are lighter then neon or SRT rear brake set-ups. 2, why would you want wider tires in the rear?
 
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 10:43 AM
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Rear disc conversion would probably be A good swap once you factor in the clearance of the knuckle for wider rubber. Them SRT boy are stuffing 225 and 235 tires up in there.
1, you missed my point... drums in the rear are lighter then neon or SRT rear brake set-ups. 2, why would you want wider tires in the rear?
Neon and SRT-4 rear setups are 99% identical...why wouldnt you want wider tires in the rear? If you dont think its necessary at all then go ahead and run some 225's up front and some 165's in the rear...

As for rear discs and larger front discs being "worthless", I'll let every single performance automaker in the world know that their wasting their time and money on rear discs and bigger brakes...

If your concerened about weight, the knucles and hubs weigh the same both front and rear regardless of how big the rotors are or whether you have discs, so why not just buy lightweight performance rotors?
 
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 03:11 PM
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you also missed my point....

Think how you like... I will not put SRT disc brakes on my neon. My drums in the rear are lighter than other OEM disk set-up whether it be R/T or SRT. Also, as i already mentioned... My front disc set-up is lighter than any OEM set-up that will swap on my car.

We do not own race cars... i doubt anybody here is even close to pushing 150hp with the execption of what... 2 maybe. When people ask how to make there car faster i refuse to help them put heavier equipment on thier car to make them slower.

We are not talking about aftermarket big brake set-up that are engineered and desinged to be bigger an lighter. No where in this thread was an aftermarket big brake kit mentioned. Next time you want to put words in my mouth at least ask first...

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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 04:03 PM
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cams
port and polished head
port and polished intake manifold
bigger throttle body
udp
50 shot (wet)
weight reduction
smaller/lighter wheels (14's)
For the pre-NGC cars that list is good. Probably go with UDP and ThrottleBody for just bolt-ons.

As for wheels, probably stick with 15" just for wider selection of rubber.

Think it is moder that has some uber lite Rotas that are plenty wide for serious rubber for when you finally do your SRT brake swap to stop this thing.
thats a good list even for a NGC... Those are all things the computer cannot account for or control.

also, SRT brakes are worthless... just like rear disc conversions. why add more weight to the car? I know SRT guys that have downgraded to non-srt brakes for that reason. weight reduction

A truely Big +1 srt rear discs add NOTHING to stopping power, it adds weight, and any actually stopping power achieved it's so minimal it is not noticeable. If your going to upgrade brakes, upgrade the fronts. Thats where it needs to be. Explanation: Our FWD drive in the front, and there for need front discs to decrease stopping distance. Where as the rear wheels do not have nearly as much load as our fronts. Giving the fronts some good rotors, calipers, and pads will do WONDERS and FAR more than replacing the rears with discs. Replacing the rears with good quality brakes is not necassary (especially with srt discs). If your going to do a full swap in the rear, get a GOOD High quality set of rear discs and calipers and you might (I emphasize MIGHT) see a beneficial decrease in stopping distance. Our drum brakes are more than adequite for stopping power on the rear wheels. It wont hurt but you wont see a good (if any) gain in stopping power.... or your money back.

Plus, anything that will increase airflow (for N/A OR turbo work) will help with power.

Also, you mentioned a supercharger in your first post.

No such thing exists for neons Yakuza.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 08:07 PM
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Vortech has a supercharger for da neon. http://www.andysautosport.com/dodge/..._kits/vortech/
 
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 03:39 PM
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no need to lose the a/c it doesnt rob that much power. actually, if you have it on and you go into WOT, it will shut off and you wont lose any power from it
not sure about that. i know mine kills my power. and when i go wot the car just doesnt want to go. i know i need a tune up but i still think the ac robs alot of power (hence the reason i dont use it)
i do also feel likei lose power when i have the A/C on, also when i go into WOT, or maybe its just all in my head
Whats WOT mean?
 
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 03:48 PM
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Vortech has a supercharger for da neon. http://www.andysautosport.com/dodge/..._kits/vortech/
Thats a universal S/C kit...its not designed for the Neon at all. Someone on the other .Org is currently working on a custom S/C setup...so we'll se how that goes.


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no need to lose the a/c it doesnt rob that much power. actually, if you have it on and you go into WOT, it will shut off and you wont lose any power from it
not sure about that. i know mine kills my power. and when i go wot the car just doesnt want to go. i know i need a tune up but i still think the ac robs alot of power (hence the reason i dont use it)
i do also feel likei lose power when i have the A/C on, also when i go into WOT, or maybe its just all in my head
Whats WOT mean?
WOT = Wide Open Throttle.


And someone answer this for me, if the SRT-4 brakes, and rear discs in general are worthless, then how is it the SRT-4 has a 60-0 braking distance of 117 feet, the R/T of 120 feet, and the Neon without rear discs of 135 feet?
 
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 04:30 PM
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I'm not going to argue with you... yes your facts are right.

How many people here are worried about braking? The OP asked about going faster... What good is 18 feet when it takes you longer to get to 60mph.Thats a trade off that is not worth(less) it to me. My statement still stands, you ask me how to go faster i will tell you. I will not give you suggestion that will slow you down, unless you ask.

It cracks me up... most of the guys asking how to go faster are in another thread talking about there 12" subs they just put in the trunk. :shakes head:

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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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Fair enough.

I'll weigh the stock front Neon knuckles/calipers/rotors and compare them to the weight of the SRT front knucles/calipers/rotors and see what the difference is so everyone knows...
 
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