SOHC Engines Mods for SUPERCHARGER ?
Helo everybody, i have a 01 dodge neon ES, Auto... I would like to add a supercharger to it thought, could somebody help me out with a list of things i need to do before adding the supercharger to the car ? do i need to build up the engine or is it good stock ? how much hp will i gain ? will i need to do something with the transmission ? any special supercharger ? anything will be really appreciated
1.) There are no superchargers
2.) Why does everyone come on asking to supercharge a 2.0 Liter engine? You want big displacement to make decent power out of a supercharer. Plus, a supercharger is a parasitic means of F/I. It takes power to make the power. A turbo makes power without all those pulleys...
Your auto transmission is only rated for 200 whp. So, anything over that and say goodbye...
You can turbo a stock neon no problem running 8 psi. I wouldnt do any more than 8 on a Daily Driver.
2.) Why does everyone come on asking to supercharge a 2.0 Liter engine? You want big displacement to make decent power out of a supercharer. Plus, a supercharger is a parasitic means of F/I. It takes power to make the power. A turbo makes power without all those pulleys...
Your auto transmission is only rated for 200 whp. So, anything over that and say goodbye...
You can turbo a stock neon no problem running 8 psi. I wouldnt do any more than 8 on a Daily Driver.
I'm thinking of doing the same thing to my '00 and have done a lot of reading about it. As far as I know, it's only been done a couple of times. Adding a supercharger is actually fairly simple when you have lots of room, or a kit to put on, which we really don't have either of with the Neon. Currently there are no Supercharger kits available for Neons. All you really need is a custom intake, some custom brackets and possibly a longer belt. Finding a spot for the s/c (supercharger) would be the main problem. You could put it where the A/C is and life would be much simpler, but also much hotter in the car. Fitting it near the top of the engine would work if there was space between the head and radiator, and the power steering pump is in the way, but you could relocate that if you wanted. Either way it can be done with time, planning and lots of customwork.
Unless you are wanting to run a lot of boost, you shouldn't need to build up the engine, I understand they can take plenty of boost stock.
Your hp gain will depend on how much boost you run of course, and which type of s/c you choose. Here are a few links for your reading pleasure:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin-sc...e_supercharger
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roots_type_supercharger
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrif...e_supercharger
So having read all that you can now make a decision as to what type of s/c you want. As an added note, centrifugal type s/c's are available in a shaft driven version, where the pulley is mounted on a shaft connected to the s/c, which is mounted at the other end of the engine where there usually is more room for the unit.
As with any modifications to your engine, if you are making lots of power, you likely will need to upgrade your clutch and possibly your axle shafts to ones that can handle the power and torque.
So I hope you are now a little more informed. I myself am planning on using a s/c from a GM 3.8L V6 since they are easily available, I can aquire one for cheap from a local wrecker and I feel that they are the best choice of s/c for what I want. Good luck and happy tuning!
Unless you are wanting to run a lot of boost, you shouldn't need to build up the engine, I understand they can take plenty of boost stock.
Your hp gain will depend on how much boost you run of course, and which type of s/c you choose. Here are a few links for your reading pleasure:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin-sc...e_supercharger
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roots_type_supercharger
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrif...e_supercharger
So having read all that you can now make a decision as to what type of s/c you want. As an added note, centrifugal type s/c's are available in a shaft driven version, where the pulley is mounted on a shaft connected to the s/c, which is mounted at the other end of the engine where there usually is more room for the unit.
As with any modifications to your engine, if you are making lots of power, you likely will need to upgrade your clutch and possibly your axle shafts to ones that can handle the power and torque.
So I hope you are now a little more informed. I myself am planning on using a s/c from a GM 3.8L V6 since they are easily available, I can aquire one for cheap from a local wrecker and I feel that they are the best choice of s/c for what I want. Good luck and happy tuning!
see...this is why we need graphite. lol.
Freerider is right, your auto tranny is toast over 200whp. Also 8psi is about the highest you want to go. It has been pushed farther but only for dyno runs. The engines themselves can take about 250whp stock. However the tranny will hold you back to 200whp.
He is also right when he says it takes power to make power with superchargers. Sometimes superchargers take up to 20% of the engines power just to work lol.
Since you do have that 200whp limit it actually might not be that bad to go SC. If you were going to go past 200whp i would say turbo. but since you will be stuck why not take the power all around the RPMs. But good luck finding a supercharger and making it fit lol.
Just keep in mind that there is a reason not many neons have been supercharged.
Freerider is right, your auto tranny is toast over 200whp. Also 8psi is about the highest you want to go. It has been pushed farther but only for dyno runs. The engines themselves can take about 250whp stock. However the tranny will hold you back to 200whp.
He is also right when he says it takes power to make power with superchargers. Sometimes superchargers take up to 20% of the engines power just to work lol.
Since you do have that 200whp limit it actually might not be that bad to go SC. If you were going to go past 200whp i would say turbo. but since you will be stuck why not take the power all around the RPMs. But good luck finding a supercharger and making it fit lol.
Just keep in mind that there is a reason not many neons have been supercharged.
There have been so far and few instances of people Turboing an ATX neon that the 200whp was probably from years ago. I doubt they can hold that much without a rebuild.
We're going off of really old knowledge here...
We're going off of really old knowledge here...
yeah, adionik is right. Just try to go past and tell us when your tranny is finished so we can update :P.
Adionik, would it be fair to say that his car is from years ago and that the tranny probably hasn't changed?
Adionik, would it be fair to say that his car is from years ago and that the tranny probably hasn't changed?
good luck doing all the custom work to just make the SC FIT under the hood....
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yeah, adionik is right. Just try to go past and tell us when your tranny is finished so we can update :P.
Adionik, would it be fair to say that his car is from years ago and that the tranny probably hasn't changed?
yeah, adionik is right. Just try to go past and tell us when your tranny is finished so we can update :P.
Adionik, would it be fair to say that his car is from years ago and that the tranny probably hasn't changed?


