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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Augiedoggy
Ironically the super Walmart in niagara falls doesnt carry it... They said to try autozone... It seems I have better luck finding things at regular walmarts than the "super walmarts"
I didn't know there were any regular walmarts around anymore. All the super walmarts around here are just called walmart now.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 09:35 AM
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Yes, actually, it is wrong, if you're counting the scientific community and tallying votes. There is broad general consensus (>90%) in the scientific community that man-made emissions are responsible for current atmospheric CO2 concentrations.



Well, shucks, here's another one at wikipedia.

We're (humans are) dumping ~29 billion tons of CO2 into the atmosphere every year. Only about 40% of our annual output is sequestered by the oceans and green plants, while the remaining 60% stays in the air. Each year we throw out 17.4 billion tons of CO2 that just stays there, year over year over year. How can it NOT futz up the works?

Consider this: Our atmosphere, relatively, is thinner than a sheet of cellophane wrapped tightly around a basketball.
CO2 levels were higher, millions of years ago, than today yet several Ice Ages hit. The earth puts out more emissions than man does, PLUS, the ALGorebal Warming Climate Change people constantly re-adjust their models to match existing conditions and then produce their new gloom and doom scenarios. Remember a few years back when it was said we were in danger of more and bigger hurricanes, after which none of their predictions even case close? And now this year it was admitted, "Oops. We just can't predict what's going to happen."
 
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by VWandDodge
CO2 levels were higher, millions of years ago, than today yet several Ice Ages hit. The earth puts out more emissions than man does, PLUS, the ALGorebal Warming Climate Change people constantly re-adjust their models to match existing conditions and then produce their new gloom and doom scenarios. Remember a few years back when it was said we were in danger of more and bigger hurricanes, after which none of their predictions even case close? And now this year it was admitted, "Oops. We just can't predict what's going to happen."
Except we have indeed had more and bigger hurricanes in recent years? I read that has more to do with the shift in magnetic north than pollution though.. Bottom line we do it without having a full understanding of what its doing to the inside of our fishbowl and doing anything on that big of a scale without understanding the consequences is bad in itself...
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 10:47 AM
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I'll say one thing for Star Tron, I just fired up my pole saw this morning to do some Crape Myrtle and hedge trimming. Of all the yard engines I have, this one is used the least. It's a pure out joy to not have an eaten away primer bulb and have the thing start on the second pull after sitting since basically late spring...
 
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Augiedoggy
Except we have indeed had more and bigger hurricanes in recent years? I read that has more to do with the shift in magnetic north than pollution though..
No. The worst hurricane season(s) on record were in the late-1950s. Sorry, but as Dr Phil would say, "That dawg don't hunt". The earth's weather cycles. Period. And to point out billions in damage is ridiculous because, #1) money is nothing more than an intrinsic value, and #2) people are encouraged to live along these coastal areas that are known to be hit by hurricanes.


Bottom line we do it without having a full understanding of what its doing to the inside of our fishbowl and doing anything on that big of a scale without understanding the consequences is bad in itself...
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Uh huh. Happy reading:
Giant plumes of methane bubbling to surface of Arctic Ocean
 
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Old Dec 15, 2011 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by VWandDodge
if that an article about the bermuda triangle and whats taking down the planes its old news to me...
I can show you another one (If I could find it ) where scientists actually use the pollutant levels in the ice in antartica to tell how much crap has been dumped into the atmosphere and when throughout time since the industrial revolution...
My point is we could go back and forth on this all day and neither one of us will have all the answers on whether its right or wrong... to say nature dumps gases into the atmosphere so why does it matter if dump about a thousand more different types including those not naturally occurring in nature? It covering up one truth with another and misleading. Is ethanols sole purpose in fuels because it is considered a nuetral fuel to create? I know they say the corn consumes about as much co2 while growing as it produced when burned but beyond that I'll admit my knowedge on the subject isnt that up to speed.... I know one of the excuses used is less reliance on fossil fuels and it forces manufactures to build better engines to work with alternative fuels which makes sense in the long run.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 08:07 AM
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i just bought some of this stuff the other day, topped off my tank last night and threw some in along with some octane booster. we shall see how well it works for me...ive constantly been getting 10-11 mpg mixed driving constantly since my plenum fix.

although i do have 3.55's and 285/75's on my truck.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 08:56 AM
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I wonder how the Star Tron stacks up against the Stabil marine formula. Been using the Stabil in all my power garden equipment and generator for a couple years now, and the stuff is great. I'm going to try it in my truck next fill up.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by zman17
I wonder how the Star Tron stacks up against the Stabil marine formula. Been using the Stabil in all my power garden equipment and generator for a couple years now, and the stuff is great. I'm going to try it in my truck next fill up.

There are four or five products out there marketed toward getting rid of ethanol or at least the negative effects of it, Star Tron and Sta-Bil's marine formula being two of them. I'll have to look at the ingredient lists next time I'm in a store that carries both (I know my local Wal-Mart, Ace Hardware and Tractor Supply all do), but I'd bet they are about the same stuff.

I do know that both are also a stabilizer, but Star Tron makes the further statement that it can actually bring older, stale, non-treated gas "back to life", I've not seen Sta-Bil make that claim. Don't know how true it is.

But I'd say you'd probably see about the same results treating new gas with either product...
 
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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 03:17 PM
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I wondered about this too since I haven't running across the startron but I see the sta-bil everywhere
 
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