Tie rod bad diagnosis - help a noob
How does one tell if the tie rods are bad? Should there be any play on the ball joint? If I grab the bar and twist, it will travel about 3 inches but only move around the ball joint-- no side to side play. Just up down. The steering dampner also twists with the bar. All four tie rods move like this so are they all shot or all normal? I had one shop tell me the track bar was bad cause it moved a little so I had that replaced and now it's tight. But they said nothing about the tie rods being loose. I hope to take it to another shop on Wed for sloppy steering and want to have some knowledge beforehand. Thank you. 
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my tie rods also rotate up/down. i think its normal.
for removal of some steering play see here https://dodgeforum.com/m_657750/tm.htm
for removal of some steering play see here https://dodgeforum.com/m_657750/tm.htm
Mine are BAD too. They're shot if you can twist it.
I've heard many times that you have to replace the whole tierod and draglink though. I don't get why this would be since they have the adjustable collars that you can just replace.
I think I'm gonna go take mine off today and take a look.
I've heard many times that you have to replace the whole tierod and draglink though. I don't get why this would be since they have the adjustable collars that you can just replace.
I think I'm gonna go take mine off today and take a look.
ORIGINAL: dhvaughan
my tie rods also rotate up/down. i think its normal.
for removal of some steering play see here https://dodgeforum.com/m_657750/tm.htm
my tie rods also rotate up/down. i think its normal.
for removal of some steering play see here https://dodgeforum.com/m_657750/tm.htm
ORIGINAL: Socha_62
Mine are BAD too. They're shot if you can twist it.
I've heard many times that you have to replace the whole tierod and draglink though. I don't get why this would be since they have the adjustable collars that you can just replace.
I think I'm gonna go take mine off today and take a look.
Mine are BAD too. They're shot if you can twist it.
I've heard many times that you have to replace the whole tierod and draglink though. I don't get why this would be since they have the adjustable collars that you can just replace.
I think I'm gonna go take mine off today and take a look.
ORIGINAL: Ramman18
Oh, great, then they're all shot. Yippee. I always wonder why they sell just the tie rod end because it looks like all my tie rods are connected to the rods as one piece. Looking up parts, I'm seeing about 200 bucks for all four not including labor. I'd like to upgrade to Moog, but they're REALLY expensive. Should I just get Napa parts or what?
ORIGINAL: Socha_62
Mine are BAD too. They're shot if you can twist it.
I've heard many times that you have to replace the whole tierod and draglink though. I don't get why this would be since they have the adjustable collars that you can just replace.
I think I'm gonna go take mine off today and take a look.
Mine are BAD too. They're shot if you can twist it.
I've heard many times that you have to replace the whole tierod and draglink though. I don't get why this would be since they have the adjustable collars that you can just replace.
I think I'm gonna go take mine off today and take a look.
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If you are moving it by hand under the truck "twisting" does not mean they are bad..Christ you will have every one change for no reason..jack the tire up and see if you can move the tire side from side hands on the 9 and 3 position if u have movement then yes they are bad..while you are at it see if you can move the tire up and down. 12 and 6 position see if u have play ball joint maybe ? or bearings...
ORIGINAL: padodgeram
If you are moving it by hand under the truck "twisting" does not mean they are bad..Christ you will have every one change for no reason..jack the tire up and see if you can move the tire side from side hands on the 9 and 3 position if u have movement then yes they are bad..while you are at it see if you can move the tire up and down. 12 and 6 position see if u have play ball joint maybe ? or bearings...
If you are moving it by hand under the truck "twisting" does not mean they are bad..Christ you will have every one change for no reason..jack the tire up and see if you can move the tire side from side hands on the 9 and 3 position if u have movement then yes they are bad..while you are at it see if you can move the tire up and down. 12 and 6 position see if u have play ball joint maybe ? or bearings...
I had two mechanics check out the front end a couple weeks ago and neither one said the tie rods were bad. They also said the bearings and ball joints were good. In fact, one shop tested the joints while I looked on. They didn't move. The only joint that did move was the track bar which I just had done. But there's still slop in the steering and all the tie rods look loose and the boots look weak. I twisted the passenger one the most (with the shock on it) and went slowly up and down and there's a slight 'dead spot' in the middle of the travel. I remember inspecting them whenever I grease (which has been awhile) and don't remember them moving that far but I'm no mechanic either. Thank you for all your help everybody!








