Well if it's anything like power-coating. you wont want to eat ANYTHING out of that oven for at least 2 months. I don't know what it is with that stuff, but the smell permeates into the surface and everything you cook in the oven will taste awful. Along with you'll smell that every time you cook.

 

SO, Im buying a modded kegger and 50mm throttle body off of a member on here. What can I expect after the install (with a new APS plenum of course). 75% of my truck on the rad is as is, The other 25% of the time I'm hauling my quad or a loaded trailer (flatbed with 4 quads on it, and mine in the bed) How can I expect my truck to handle at my max tow? With the mid and top end gains, am I loosing some lowend? the MPGs on this mod even been tested (more, less, same?)

Also, along with the new modded kegger and throttlebody. Should I run a 180° thurmo. (need to or just should) Will I throw codes because of the added air?


Thanks. I'm learnin

 

The mods will move your power band up just a bit, (it also has the benefit of expanding it upwards some too....) The engine will breathe better, have better throttle repsonse. You won't notice any low end power loss.

Shouldn't set any codes. 180 thermo isn't really necessary..... but, if done, might set codes. (engine too cold too long.)

Mileage probably won't change much either, if at all.

 

I actually just recently posted this over in the other kegger thread:
https://dodgeforum.com/forum/2nd-gen...on-thread.html
but it is probably better here. It's the dyno result for the kegger mod posted by a guy on another forum.

His summary was that the mod made about 7 less horsepower from 3000 until it hit 4000 then made 14 more from 4000 until 5200. As for torque, our engines hit max torque at under 3000 rpm. On the dyno, the modded kegger produced less torque (10 ft lbs) at the point where torque is first at its max, but produced more torque from that point up to 5200 (so basically, the torque curve didn't drop off quite as fast from 2900 on up with the modded kegger as it does with a stock kegger. So the jist of this is, it basically gave both torque and HP increases in the upper rpm range, but decreased the max torque and HP at low (3000) rpm range. I once spoke with a guy who had done several modded keggers and dynoed them all, and his results where similar. It wasn't until he started filling the kegger that he saw the max HP and torque numbers come back up, essentially giving the best of both worlds (higher max HP and torque, and less/slower drop of torque as rpms increase).

By the way, this completely confirms generally accepted understandings of the relationship between long runners and torque. The longer the runner, the better the low end HP and torque. HankL used to post often about this relationship.

So if one is wanting to gain more HP and torque at high rpm (and have a flatter torque curve from 3000 on up), this would seem to be a good mod for them. Just know that you might notice a slight decrease at lower RPM. But that could be restored or overcome with other mods that focus more on low end power.

As for mpgs and the kegger mod (and as with most things related to the kegger mod), there really isn't any concrete data because no one really has taken the time to test these things scientifically. For me, I didn't see any gain or loss in mpgs.

You will not get a code from the added air, and you can run a 180 t-stat if you like, but not necessary.

 

How does this all translate into everyday RPM range. I paid attention to it last night and My truck runs from 1500 to 3000 pretty much consistently. I gunned it on the on ram and got up to 3500 for a brief moment until the shift.

So is this mod even worth it if your loosing 7 ponies in prime RPM range?

HeyYou, were kinda in the same boat as far as our trucks go. You feel/like the kegger? Do any towing with your truck?

 

My truck was seriously neglected by the previous owner. (something I didn't discover till AFTER I had bought it.....) so, it ran/drove like crap initially. The plenum was seriously blown, it used three quarts of oil a week, and low end was pretty much non-existent. (265/75R16 tires, 3.55 gears...)

Doing the plenum, with a modded intake, replacing cap/rotor/plugs, (wires were basically new....) Made a BIG difference in the way the truck ran/drove. Better throttle response, MORE perceived power, smoother shifts. All in all, I was VERY pleased.

About a week or two later..... I had the 'opportunity'.... to change out my timing chain and gears. That ALSO made a difference in the way the truck ran. I was actually amazed at just how much difference it DID make......

So far, I do indeed like the things I have done to the truck. Runs Good, drives reasonable, (still working on that aspect), trans seems ok.

I haven't towed anything with it yet.... but, I have used it to haul dirt. Heaviest load was about 5200 pounds in the bed. Drove the truck home, (15 miles) with O/D off. Ran great, pulled fine. Could barely tell that the load was even there. (aside from the fact that with the load, the truck rode MUCH better........) Considering that the drive out of the yard where I got the dirt was up a STEEP hill...... I just eased up it, and the truck didn't even struggle. No problems at all.

As it stands now, I am VERY happy with my trucks engine. A bit more power would be nice, but, I am working on that too. All things in good time.

 

Here is my situation, I would like to get input on. I am about to do the Kegger mod this weekend. I drive mainly at higher speeds (say 45 or more most of the time). Driving in town below 45 is limited. I do drive the interstate somewhat. What gains will I get from doing this mod? Are there different cuts that I can make to get different results. From what I've read, it seems that the engine looses horsepower in the cruising range (or did I misinterpret). This would hurt when climbing a hill. I don't need to lose any more power, as the truck really struggles going uphill now. I am, however, also fixing the plenum, new tune up, new timing chain, new magnaflow cat, sensor, and SCT tuner. Again, what will doing the Kegger mod really accomplish? Is it worth it to put the work into it? Thanks.

 

5200 lbs!!!! i dont think its all that much you loaded. i dropped a ton of pellets in mine and it barely turned. i dont think 5200 is even possable considering that only a few hundred pounds less then the total weight! and as far as the mod i have actually gotten to drive my truck with the mod done. idk as far as my last motor it had not only a bad intake base gasket and burning about a quart to two a month. it also had a bad lobe on the cam and a bent push on the same lobe. (#2 intake) im not sure as to what caused said bent rod im looking into possable reasons. but i do know that my new motor runs a lot better and has loads more low end and top end power. i will know tomorrow when i fill up what the miles per gallon is. most of my driving is loaded with a toow box about 300lbs and thats all. i drive about an hours a day to work on blizzak snow tires (235/70r15)

 

That weight was verified on a scale...... (buy dirt by the ton...) I was a bit floored when they told me the weight......

 

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