Changes about to go down.
In no way do I feel offended. I feel pretty stupid for all the **** I post guys. I know why you guys think I'm a joke half the time. I'm always bragging about this and that, and just being all over the place. This whole transmission ordeal has really made me see a different side to everything. I just can't wait to get my truck back and take care of her. No more excessive burnouts, just DRIVING and appreciating my baby. I know why you guys gave me a lot of ****, because from your standpoint, I just sounded like an annoying kid with a nice dodge, who didn't know what he was talking about. You guys can bet you'll see a new me on this forum from now on. Now that I have more of an understanding about what a big lifted truck is about. I can't promise you won't see some exhaust videos now and then because this truck sure does have a nice growl
. But, yeah, I've been stupid guys, real stupid. I know what to do now. And from now on, I'm focusing on whats going to improve the health of the truck. All the fancy wheel crap can come way later down the road like you said Silver. So thank you guys. Now, I'll just get that tranny taken care of. I think we can put this never ending book of a thread to rest now, and I'm just going to chill out, and "just drive" my truck around. Sorry guys, I've just been on a 7 month excitment rant with this truck, and now that something has finally broken, it's time to start enjoying this truck and stop trying to make it show everyone what it has everyone second. Ok, let's end this thread so you guys can get a break! Wooh[8D]
. But, yeah, I've been stupid guys, real stupid. I know what to do now. And from now on, I'm focusing on whats going to improve the health of the truck. All the fancy wheel crap can come way later down the road like you said Silver. So thank you guys. Now, I'll just get that tranny taken care of. I think we can put this never ending book of a thread to rest now, and I'm just going to chill out, and "just drive" my truck around. Sorry guys, I've just been on a 7 month excitment rant with this truck, and now that something has finally broken, it's time to start enjoying this truck and stop trying to make it show everyone what it has everyone second. Ok, let's end this thread so you guys can get a break! Wooh[8D]
ORIGINAL: 01DodgeRam360
I know why you guys gave me a lot of ****, because from your standpoint, I just sounded like an annoying kid with a nice dodge, who didn't know what he was talking about. You guys can bet you'll see a new me on this forum from now on.
I know why you guys gave me a lot of ****, because from your standpoint, I just sounded like an annoying kid with a nice dodge, who didn't know what he was talking about. You guys can bet you'll see a new me on this forum from now on.
Ill hold you to it
I hate my work schedule I miss all the posts from being gone from 4 to 5 complete days a week, but anywho. I bet most of user error like most people said, BUT i'm not going to touch that. I have my V10 dually 4x4 with mods from homemade mostly. (head and intake porting and all that). That truck huals *** unloaded with basically no strain on it what so ever. The trans was weak on it when i got it over a year ago and i know i don't drive pussyfooted by anymeans. I'm sure its weak due to pulling weight though due to it being a 1 ton dually oh and the obvious it did have a 5th wheel rails in it when i bought it. The truck has a leveling kit on it and is like almost 2 inches overall tall then my 1500 which still kinda makes me wonder at time with only 265's on believe. I dont have the money for new wider rims for it yet because i don't like spacers usually but when i do i'm getting 285's. Solid truck drives down the street straight at any speed i want to throw at it. Like i said she moves with little to no strain, i love the V10. By the way if it matters to you or not it has 124k roughly.Now the 1500 4x4 bone stock is mostly a joke at an speed in comparison. I want to put a lift on it and 35's, but I let my dying disabled father drive it because he has nothing. I know i need to give that truck a good once over on the suspension because something has to be out of wack. I love this truck a lot too, its really nice sometimes to go to most parking lots with a extended cab shortbed compared to the big fat assed black bitch which i call my dually. The 5.9 seems to be underpowered and all that which i plan on looking at the plenum when Michigan decides it wants to warm back up alittle. The 1500 and the 3500 are night and day differences which i'm sure wasn't hard to guess that. The 3500 seems to be built one hell of a hole lot more sterdy which it has to be due to what its made for. Now i'm a drag racer at heart. I've had over 19 mustangs, 2 chargers(68 and 69) and a hemi cuda. Currently I have a 23 Ford T bucket which is my cruiser/go fast car. When its nice and warm and i feel a major need for speed i don't find myself looking for one of my trucks keys (which i modded v10 could fill) but i go towards my bucket. Yeah it looks like i own alot and all that but hard work does pay off, plus overseas pay is really nice when i was active. I also have another go fast vehical and thats a modded 2k Mustang Steeda. I may be only 24 but i've gone threw school for racing suspension fab. and UTI's hotrod program. Go figure i'm a Tow truck operator, i dont really want to work on cars full time either DD's or race because i'll loose alot of it as I hobby which is more important to me. Anyways i've went through all this to show you i have experienced a lot in my almost 25 years on this earth. Now from what you was describing i would look over your truck a lot more before making any drastic changes. Also on a 5 inch lift it came with new coils and all that i'm guessing, did the guy save all stock suspension componants and do you have them? Give the truck a nice new set of new shocks and give it a good once over. You said you don't know much of what there is to know? This place has some of the best dodge pesific information I have came across, as these are my first 2 dodge trucks i'm still learning alot on these. I hate to jump on the bashing bandwagon though as to say most of what i see go wrong with your truck is user fault. Yeah you said the trans was weak when you got it and all that, but as you stated this is a TRUCK, drive it as one. That is all the negative i am going to say because you said you was going to get some act right! Also i wish i had mommy or daddy capiable to help me out with money when something breaks as i've put well over 32 thousand dollars alone on my t bucket and i've got well over 25 grand in a Race prepped 392 stroked race prepped engine in my garage built by me except for the engine machining. Just sit down and give a serious thought as to what you want to do with your truck and what your abilities as either a driver or mechanic or well as you seem to do pay someone else to do.
ORIGINAL: 01DodgeRam360
Ya know what I'm not positive on that. Also, Ram2K1, I completely completely agree with you. I think instead of trying to spend all sorts of weird money trying to make this exisiting lift work would be a never ending nightmare. And, even if I do piece out all of the other suspension components to make it proper, it still is a half *** lift. I think I'll put it back down to the offroad editon height and put on some nice 285s with some fresh looking wheels. Then, later down the road when I have more fun money to spend, I'll do the lift right on this truck. I'll buy the 5'5 Fabtech lift, and buy some 4.56s gears. Hell, I'll save my existing 35" tires and I could use those when I first get the lift on? I think this is my best and safest solution to saving this transmission and the suspensional components that are taking wear and tear right now.
Now as for the transmission, I called them back today because they hadn't called me all day yesterday or all day today. I called them about an hour before they closed. When I called they told me to call back in an hour because they were just finishing up diagnosing it. Then about 30 minutes later they called back. He says he think there is an intake leak on the truck. He mentioned basically taking everything apart on the top end to replace the plenum and the gaskets. So I guess this does answer that I do have a bad plenum (never checked this before). I was somewhat confused though, I didn't think a plenum could affect the way a transmission shifts, is this possible?? Anyways, he says he's calling me back tomorrowing morning with a full quote and give me more details what they plan to do, but that is the gist of what he thinks is going on. So no codes were thrown from the tranny itself? What do you guys make of this?
ORIGINAL: rabbler
I don't think this was asked.
Does your truck still have the front sway bar hooked up?
I don't think this was asked.
Does your truck still have the front sway bar hooked up?
Now as for the transmission, I called them back today because they hadn't called me all day yesterday or all day today. I called them about an hour before they closed. When I called they told me to call back in an hour because they were just finishing up diagnosing it. Then about 30 minutes later they called back. He says he think there is an intake leak on the truck. He mentioned basically taking everything apart on the top end to replace the plenum and the gaskets. So I guess this does answer that I do have a bad plenum (never checked this before). I was somewhat confused though, I didn't think a plenum could affect the way a transmission shifts, is this possible?? Anyways, he says he's calling me back tomorrowing morning with a full quote and give me more details what they plan to do, but that is the gist of what he thinks is going on. So no codes were thrown from the tranny itself? What do you guys make of this?
Have the shop look at your tranny like they were meant to in the first place. If they don't do that they'll probably point out how there are some scratches, knicks, cuts and bruises all over the under side of your car and then some that's in need of repair too... Which of coarse, will be repaired at a rate of around $75.00 an hour a la 01DodgeRam360...
ORIGINAL: 01DodgeRam360
Well now that I know my plenum is in fact trouble, it's something I will replace, but I'll do this on my own time. Why would this transmission shop be coming up with this though? It's there for the transmission. Also, with a bodylift, would that mean there would no longer be stresses on the suspensional components if I keep the 35" tires, or am I still having to deal with having pieces that aren't up to par still? I kind of feel like just going fullout down to stock though and not messing around with anymore lifts until I can actually afford the whole real deal and gears etc. But as for the plenum, I will find a way to do this myself, where is a good guide on here that helps explain do to it? But for the transmission, why aren't any codes being thrown up from that. And yeah, I am not getting it done from there anymore. I'm bringing it down to northeast transmission in saco. Can't hurt to have two different quotes.
Well now that I know my plenum is in fact trouble, it's something I will replace, but I'll do this on my own time. Why would this transmission shop be coming up with this though? It's there for the transmission. Also, with a bodylift, would that mean there would no longer be stresses on the suspensional components if I keep the 35" tires, or am I still having to deal with having pieces that aren't up to par still? I kind of feel like just going fullout down to stock though and not messing around with anymore lifts until I can actually afford the whole real deal and gears etc. But as for the plenum, I will find a way to do this myself, where is a good guide on here that helps explain do to it? But for the transmission, why aren't any codes being thrown up from that. And yeah, I am not getting it done from there anymore. I'm bringing it down to northeast transmission in saco. Can't hurt to have two different quotes.
http://allpar.com/fix/trans.html
Information on transmissions you might be interested in.
Fluid loss
Kelli Bee wrote: “I wanted to let you know of an issue I had with a 1998 Neon. I was told by the dealer that I needed a new transmission. It was leaking about a quart every 8 miles. The car shifted fine when it had fluid so I got two more opinions. One said new transmission, the last said there was a cut in the cooler line that no one bothered to check. While I thought it was the seals, it was in fact easier and cheaper than that. You might want to let people know to check that also, since most of us can do basic work but are confused to the actual way to inspect a transmission.â€
Using quality parts in a rebuild - don't trust the repair shop!
Master Tech Bill wrote:
I have made a living doing these transmissions since 1990 and have read your page and it's great. I have dealt with aftermarket shops and also worked for dealerships.
The advice I have for anyone getting their trans rebuilt is - go to the local dealer and buy a front carrier (planetary gear) and rear carrier (planet or planetary gear). Bring them to the shop and insist that they are put in. Make sure the dealer sells you the one with the hardened spline -front and the 5 pinion rear. All the aftermarket is saturatedwith parts from Taiwan. It's like the difference between Snap-On and Harbor Freight.
If you have first release overdrive hub it has to be updated to the new hub and and also the 2-4 hub to match the front planet if the trans is made before 7/93 for the 1994 model year. The 2-4 hub breaks quite often and now has a thicker collar. Best bet-buy all four pieces if (built in) 1993 and earlier, all models if you can afford it. They have all been redesigned and strengthened.
If you get your trans done at an aftermarket shop what you are charged for the Taiwan parts is most likely pretty close to the dealer price for the mopar gears.
Dealing with rebuilders and repair shops
Christopher Grimm also had this advice for dealing with shops:
If you're looking at a rebuild, do your homework. See if the shop knows about shift improvement kits for the 604, they DO exist! Also ask them about a wiring harness upgrade, and how they set the clearances in the tranny. See if they mention adding another clutch pack to the 1-2 clutch pack, so that there is 5 instead of 4 in there. Make sure they replace the spider gears!!! Above all, make sure they use the proper fluid! If not, don't even bother. If they met all the requirements except the fluid, ask them if you can supply your own. Also see if they can get the 9" converter, $$$, but worth it if you want your engine to rev a little quicker. There are also different gear sets available, I have the 3:55s in mine. I never told you what the clearances should be did I? Make sure they set them at the lowest setting possible. This will shorten the shift time, firm up the shift, and give you more life out of the tranny. Good luck. One more thing, an auxiliary cooler is a must!
[See the earlier tips about replacing components with updated dealer parts]
Information on transmissions you might be interested in.
Fluid loss
Kelli Bee wrote: “I wanted to let you know of an issue I had with a 1998 Neon. I was told by the dealer that I needed a new transmission. It was leaking about a quart every 8 miles. The car shifted fine when it had fluid so I got two more opinions. One said new transmission, the last said there was a cut in the cooler line that no one bothered to check. While I thought it was the seals, it was in fact easier and cheaper than that. You might want to let people know to check that also, since most of us can do basic work but are confused to the actual way to inspect a transmission.â€
Using quality parts in a rebuild - don't trust the repair shop!
Master Tech Bill wrote:
I have made a living doing these transmissions since 1990 and have read your page and it's great. I have dealt with aftermarket shops and also worked for dealerships.
The advice I have for anyone getting their trans rebuilt is - go to the local dealer and buy a front carrier (planetary gear) and rear carrier (planet or planetary gear). Bring them to the shop and insist that they are put in. Make sure the dealer sells you the one with the hardened spline -front and the 5 pinion rear. All the aftermarket is saturatedwith parts from Taiwan. It's like the difference between Snap-On and Harbor Freight.
If you have first release overdrive hub it has to be updated to the new hub and and also the 2-4 hub to match the front planet if the trans is made before 7/93 for the 1994 model year. The 2-4 hub breaks quite often and now has a thicker collar. Best bet-buy all four pieces if (built in) 1993 and earlier, all models if you can afford it. They have all been redesigned and strengthened.
If you get your trans done at an aftermarket shop what you are charged for the Taiwan parts is most likely pretty close to the dealer price for the mopar gears.
Dealing with rebuilders and repair shops
Christopher Grimm also had this advice for dealing with shops:
If you're looking at a rebuild, do your homework. See if the shop knows about shift improvement kits for the 604, they DO exist! Also ask them about a wiring harness upgrade, and how they set the clearances in the tranny. See if they mention adding another clutch pack to the 1-2 clutch pack, so that there is 5 instead of 4 in there. Make sure they replace the spider gears!!! Above all, make sure they use the proper fluid! If not, don't even bother. If they met all the requirements except the fluid, ask them if you can supply your own. Also see if they can get the 9" converter, $$$, but worth it if you want your engine to rev a little quicker. There are also different gear sets available, I have the 3:55s in mine. I never told you what the clearances should be did I? Make sure they set them at the lowest setting possible. This will shorten the shift time, firm up the shift, and give you more life out of the tranny. Good luck. One more thing, an auxiliary cooler is a must!
[See the earlier tips about replacing components with updated dealer parts]
I am kinda getting sick of this thread... It's not just me is it?
No offense 360 but, you just have to make up you mind. forget about everything except for your tranny. That is number 1. Remove your lift with some friends or just leave it on. If you leave it on, just drive slow and safely so as not to **** up your tranny if it's not 100% gone already.
If the shop has taken over 3 days to do anything about your tranny, get it the **** out of there. Start doing your own testing to it. Check the fluid Level! Crack open the pan! See what's siting at the bottom of the pan by the magnet! Is there anything like chunks of metal or paper? Find out! If nothing but regular tiny microscopic metal fragments are there, change the Filter and adjust the Bands with the assistance of a $20.00 repair manual or a free repair manual from the library that you can borrow! Put everything back together! Add Fresh Fluid! See if it still leaks! Find the leak! Focus on that for now! Then if you want, pull the tranny yourself! Take your time and be Safe! That right there will save you $150 bucks as opposed to being charged for someone to remove it for you for some repair or rebuild! And who knows, maybe take a look inside, or just start calling places about it instead of having it towed for who knows how much in order to take it to a shop that takes their sweet time to fix your truck that you seem to be very interested in fixing as soon as possible.
No offense 360 but, you just have to make up you mind. forget about everything except for your tranny. That is number 1. Remove your lift with some friends or just leave it on. If you leave it on, just drive slow and safely so as not to **** up your tranny if it's not 100% gone already.
If the shop has taken over 3 days to do anything about your tranny, get it the **** out of there. Start doing your own testing to it. Check the fluid Level! Crack open the pan! See what's siting at the bottom of the pan by the magnet! Is there anything like chunks of metal or paper? Find out! If nothing but regular tiny microscopic metal fragments are there, change the Filter and adjust the Bands with the assistance of a $20.00 repair manual or a free repair manual from the library that you can borrow! Put everything back together! Add Fresh Fluid! See if it still leaks! Find the leak! Focus on that for now! Then if you want, pull the tranny yourself! Take your time and be Safe! That right there will save you $150 bucks as opposed to being charged for someone to remove it for you for some repair or rebuild! And who knows, maybe take a look inside, or just start calling places about it instead of having it towed for who knows how much in order to take it to a shop that takes their sweet time to fix your truck that you seem to be very interested in fixing as soon as possible.
ORIGINAL: Slomojo01
I am kinda getting sick of this thread... It's not just me is it?
No offense 360 but, you just have to make up you mind. forget about everything except for your tranny. That is number 1. Remove your lift with some friends or just leave it on. If you leave it on, just drive slow and safely so as not to **** up your tranny if it's not 100% gone already.
If the shop has taken over 3 days to do anything about your tranny, get it the **** out of there. Start doing your own testing to it. Check the fluid Level! Crack open the pan! See what's siting at the bottom of the pan by the magnet! Is there anything like chunks of metal or paper? Find out! If nothing but regular tiny microscopic metal fragments are there, change the Filter and adjust the Bands with the assistance of a $20.00 repair manual or a free repair manual from the library that you can borrow! Put everything back together! Add Fresh Fluid! See if it still leaks! Find the leak! Focus on that for now! Then if you want, pull the tranny yourself! Take your time and be Safe! That right there will save you $150 bucks as opposed to being charged for someone to remove it for you for some repair or rebuild! And who knows, maybe take a look inside, or just start calling places about it instead of having it towed for who knows how much in order to take it to a shop that takes their sweet time to fix your truck that you seem to be very interested in fixing as soon as possible.
I am kinda getting sick of this thread... It's not just me is it?
No offense 360 but, you just have to make up you mind. forget about everything except for your tranny. That is number 1. Remove your lift with some friends or just leave it on. If you leave it on, just drive slow and safely so as not to **** up your tranny if it's not 100% gone already.
If the shop has taken over 3 days to do anything about your tranny, get it the **** out of there. Start doing your own testing to it. Check the fluid Level! Crack open the pan! See what's siting at the bottom of the pan by the magnet! Is there anything like chunks of metal or paper? Find out! If nothing but regular tiny microscopic metal fragments are there, change the Filter and adjust the Bands with the assistance of a $20.00 repair manual or a free repair manual from the library that you can borrow! Put everything back together! Add Fresh Fluid! See if it still leaks! Find the leak! Focus on that for now! Then if you want, pull the tranny yourself! Take your time and be Safe! That right there will save you $150 bucks as opposed to being charged for someone to remove it for you for some repair or rebuild! And who knows, maybe take a look inside, or just start calling places about it instead of having it towed for who knows how much in order to take it to a shop that takes their sweet time to fix your truck that you seem to be very interested in fixing as soon as possible.
I think in addition to the Truck of the Month vote...we should have a
LAMEST THREAD OF THE MONTH vote.......
I nominate this thread...
If you want a big truck dont buy a 1500, If you want a fast truck--dont put ginormous tires on it...and if you do put the right gears in etc. The tranny--give me a break. You know that you have to be gentle with these trannys and your blasting the **** out of it and then whining when it breaks...
Slap a tranny in it, sell it, or pour some TRANS-X in the ATF and see if the tranny acts right---then sell itand buy a v10 or diesel 2500 or 3500.
You can mod the **** out of a Ford Taurus...but it still won't be a BMW....bad comparison? maybe.
LAMEST THREAD OF THE MONTH vote.......
I nominate this thread...
If you want a big truck dont buy a 1500, If you want a fast truck--dont put ginormous tires on it...and if you do put the right gears in etc. The tranny--give me a break. You know that you have to be gentle with these trannys and your blasting the **** out of it and then whining when it breaks...
Slap a tranny in it, sell it, or pour some TRANS-X in the ATF and see if the tranny acts right---then sell itand buy a v10 or diesel 2500 or 3500.
You can mod the **** out of a Ford Taurus...but it still won't be a BMW....bad comparison? maybe.



