Converting from gas to hydrogen
#21
RE: Converting from gas to hydrogen
ORIGINAL: Machine71
What some people are doing is making a canister that they fill with water, then they put in some kind of stainless steel thing that they put a charge to and the water releases its hydrogen.
What some people are doing is making a canister that they fill with water, then they put in some kind of stainless steel thing that they put a charge to and the water releases its hydrogen.
#22
RE: Converting from gas to hydrogen
Oh, and the formula does not give a HHO molecule, although I'm sure many would call it that. Its...
Two water molecules -> Two hydrogen molecules (H2) + one Oxygen (O2) molecule.
From what I've read on the subject, the amount of electricity needed to give you enough hydrogen from electrolysis to make a big difference in MPGs is too much. The alternator supposedly won't give you enough to convert completely to hydrogen, or if you push the ration to far it'll suck to much from the battery and the alternator can't keep up.
Two water molecules -> Two hydrogen molecules (H2) + one Oxygen (O2) molecule.
From what I've read on the subject, the amount of electricity needed to give you enough hydrogen from electrolysis to make a big difference in MPGs is too much. The alternator supposedly won't give you enough to convert completely to hydrogen, or if you push the ration to far it'll suck to much from the battery and the alternator can't keep up.
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#25
RE: Converting from gas to hydrogen
ORIGINAL: jason.w
If it was feasible, the big automakers would already be doing it to squeeze out extra MPGs and get the EPA off their backs, as well as attracting more consumers.
If it was feasible, the big automakers would already be doing it to squeeze out extra MPGs and get the EPA off their backs, as well as attracting more consumers.
#26
RE: Converting from gas to hydrogen
The reason that they don't do manuals anymore is because people were willing to pay for the convenience. It has nothing to do with whether they should or not for better MPGs. I was reading a study the other day, and found that approximately ninety some percent of people in the United States don't know how to drive an auto with a manual transmission.
The CVT will get you better mileage than a manual. Or at least, thats what everyone claims. A lot of Dodge models are going to that unit now.
Other automakers also claim that their newer automatics are so well tuned, they will get better mileage than a manual now-a-days. I have no experience to tell you whether thats true or not.
The CVT will get you better mileage than a manual. Or at least, thats what everyone claims. A lot of Dodge models are going to that unit now.
Other automakers also claim that their newer automatics are so well tuned, they will get better mileage than a manual now-a-days. I have no experience to tell you whether thats true or not.
#27
RE: Converting from gas to hydrogen
ORIGINAL: jason.w
Oh, and the formula does not give a HHO molecule, although I'm sure many would call it that. Its...
Two water molecules -> Two hydrogen molecules (H2) + one Oxygen (O2) molecule.
From what I've read on the subject, the amount of electricity needed to give you enough hydrogen from electrolysis to make a big difference in MPGs is too much. The alternator supposedly won't give you enough to convert completely to hydrogen, or if you push the ration to far it'll suck to much from the battery and the alternator can't keep up.
Oh, and the formula does not give a HHO molecule, although I'm sure many would call it that. Its...
Two water molecules -> Two hydrogen molecules (H2) + one Oxygen (O2) molecule.
From what I've read on the subject, the amount of electricity needed to give you enough hydrogen from electrolysis to make a big difference in MPGs is too much. The alternator supposedly won't give you enough to convert completely to hydrogen, or if you push the ration to far it'll suck to much from the battery and the alternator can't keep up.
#28
RE: Converting from gas to hydrogen
The amount of heat it requires to burn... The cost of materials to build and maintain... Youtube is the cutting edge engineering site? I'm tellin ya, free methane injection! Mythbusters did a spot on what you are suggesting. You should look into alternatives to the internal combustion engine instead.
#29
RE: Converting from gas to hydrogen
I always laugh at this... it seems everyone starts off with $20~30 worht of stuf, and claim OMG i got a little gain. then they talk about how they read this or that, or saw the new video. so they do one thing than another and another till they get $200~$500 into thier "system". two common themes are lots of little "tweaks" to "trick" the computer to run the engine leaner (this can be very very hard on an engine). many also eventually do a tune up (plugs and wires) leading me to believe that either A) it's damaging the plugs running the engine this way. or B) the vehicle probably could have been doing better the first place by doing the tune up before all this rigamarole.
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