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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by TIMIDONE
A friend of a friend has some Springs from a Cummins diesel willing to sell to me for like $60...its off a 95 or 96 I think, that won't be a problem, right?

They will fit like a glove. When installing them, disconnect the sway bar, it will make the install a breeze... they will fall right in (a coil spring compressor is not needed). Thats why I have hose clamps holding mine in place... cause I got sick of the top of the spring tipping out on the trail when articulating (I don't use a sway bar).

60 bucks, Thats a pretty decent deal too!
 
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by meanwhitemopar
... now if ya get the springs, it depends on what you get as if it goes up or not.

Thats a big negative. Even if you completely swapped the entire front/rear suspension from a one ton diesel on to the half ton truck, the load capacity of that truck will stay the same. It's not just the suspension that makes it up, it's also the strength of the axles, frame, brakes, etc.

Yes, some add-a-leafs will make the suspension much stiffer and hold a load better and not "squat" as easily (I know, cause that is what my truck has), but the actual hauling capacity of the truck remains the same.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 01:42 PM
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that is true, im sorry about that one, i miss understood the question nd then didnt think about what i was typing. and yes, you are completely right, unless you upgrade everything from the frame, to the crossmembers, to bigger brakes, bigger trans, drivshafts. it all plays a factor now that i understand it. cause i dont have te page up but as i am remebering, if he added the spacers he was asking about the capcity... and yea....


opps, mybad. lol

but the rating on the spring will determine a factor of how high you go up... right?
 
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by meanwhitemopar
that is true, im sorry about that one, i miss understood the question nd then didnt think about what i was typing. and yes, you are completely right, unless you upgrade everything from the frame, to the crossmembers, to bigger brakes, bigger trans, drivshafts. it all plays a factor now that i understand it. cause i dont have te page up but as i am remebering, if he added the spacers he was asking about the capcity... and yea....


opps, mybad. lol

but the rating on the spring will determine a factor of how high you go up... right?

Yep. Diesel and V10 springs will net more lift than a 3/4 ton and 1 ton gasser cause they have a stiffer spring rate.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 01:53 PM
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thas what i was figuring, now what springs do you have? i was thinking of getting the V10 springs. or woul the diesal ones do me better, becasue i took my sway bar off already, i still have it but its off, fun and kind of crazy with just the stock springs, but i only want to stiffen that by a little. i still want that lean and softness. but lift. if that is possible
 
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 07:40 PM
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Wont removing the sway bar create a lot of roll/play in the truck, espically at highway speeds? I mean its purpose is to keep body roll down.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 08:02 PM
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I'm wanting to level my 98 1500 4x4. What would be better? Spacers or 2500 v10 springs ? If I use the v10 springs, will I have to lift the rear also?
 
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 08:20 PM
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I didn't bother to read the whole thread but this is how I see it. New coils are better than
just getting spacers, hands down. You can get a set of 5" skyjacker springs for $173 plus
shipping. It isn't really that big of a price difference and you'd get a better product.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 09:40 PM
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yes, the purpose of the swy bar is to get rid of the body roll, but also tighten up the suspention. i dont race so i dont need the tight suspention. it is a little crazy at highway speeds but with the 2500 prings it should help.

the V10 springs would give more lift then you re after i think. and no it wouldnt lift the rear. it is just the front springs, unless i guess if you get the V10 rear leafs, olyelr would be better at that answer. but in my mind if you were to pt the V10 leafs in the rear it would lift the rear also. but i have no idea. besdies the add a leafs are cheaper and do the same thing.

and by getting those skyjacker 5" lift springs, you also need all the drop brackets for everything that needs to be. like the drop pitment arm, trac bar drop, brake line extentions. things like that are what we are saying
 
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by meanwhitemopar
the V10 springs would give more lift then you re after i think. and no it wouldnt lift the rear. it is just the front springs, unless i guess if you get the V10 rear leafs, olyelr would be better at that answer. but in my mind if you were to pt the V10 leafs in the rear it would lift the rear also. but i have no idea. besdies the add a leafs are cheaper and do the same thing.

Putting 3/4 or 1 ton leafs is not really feasible due to the fact that they are 3" wide while the half ton is 2.5" (there are some 2.5" 3/4 ton springs, but I don't believe its very many). You would have to swap shackles and front spring hangers. Some add-a-leafs would be much easier.
 
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