gotcha but its still a helping hand i was looking at ones that skyjacker sell of lift and a little load. i got hooked up with a tree guy he now comes over and dumps red oak in my front yard so i only have to take it up the drive way not run all over find it cut it load it not i just split and pile. it so nice i do all of my wood by hand im only 17 when i did boy scouts i was 14 we got wood for the cabin for the winter and i was beating 20yr man that made me felt good until i almost hit some kid never get behind me when im swing. i love to split wood it fun kinda weird of a 17yr but oh well i know who to work some times i work almost any job any time.

 

i ordered them from JC Whitney, and they were super easy to install, and cant even tell much a difference in ride when the truck is empty, but loaded, these are a god send, don't get the 3500 lb ones, for a 1/2 ton 2500 lbs is enuf

 

yea if i get the next size up im sure i would do something stupid and than be like any one got an extra axle lol

 

ive prolly come close with mine

 

what did you pay ruffly for your helper springs?

 

you never know untill its to late lol

 

if i remeber right, about 180. 190 all together
but the whole bill was more due to my dad ordering a leveling kit and airbag system for his F350

 

check this out,
http://www.jegs.com/p/Skyjacker/753716/12053/-1

 

a wagon is way different than a freakin trale trailer dude! A 5th wheel acts totally different than a wagon! I've towed my fair share of hay wagons... hell I've even towed a fully loaded grain wagon with my quad! I'm sure our truck can handle a wagon fine! A wagon puts no weight directly on the vehicle... all you need to be able to do is start it and stop it... a 5th wheel distributes a % of the trailers weight right on to the truck... this can push the truck in all directions even side to side not to mention you don't see wagons flying down the highway at 65mph either!

 

ya must have only read half of my post, ive also towed normal trailers too, goosenecks included
and i drive tractor trailer rigs on the farm
so i know a thing or two about pulling trailers