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Old Feb 21, 2009 | 06:54 PM
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Gearing. I originally fitted my truck with 36x14.5 mickeys baja belted's(hence the reasoning for my 12" wide wheels) but I couldn't stand it with 3.92's. So then I tried a 35" bfg (slightly smaller/lighter tire) but still hated it. So now I just stop at 33's... at least until I can afford to swap in 4.56's or 4.88's. I don't even like it with these 305/70/17 MTR's I have now which actually measure 34x12. Its OK, but not quite what I want.

Although I like a good looking truck, I much rather prefer function over looks. People who slap a set of 38's on a truck with stock gears just "cause they can fit them" bothers the crap out of me.
LMAO, I could not agree anymore. It's crazy how much I've learned about trucks since I first bought mine. I didn't realize how lucky I was that my truck came stock with 4.10 gearing, it really gives a truck an excellent advantage to sizing up a tire. I feel bad for my brother. He has an F-350 with a 460 big block. Thing is an absolute monster, but he's having a hard time deciding what he wants to do for tires. Right now he has 265s on 3.55 gearing, so he's already kind of pushing it gear wise. The motor is so big that it doesn't really care right now though. He'd like to upgrade to 305s when he does the shackle reverse kit up front, but then he'd still need to upgrade to 4.11 gearing. That's just a lot of damn bucks. It made me realize how cool these rams are. I was able to fit 305s on without addressing the suspension or the gearing, it was all layed out stock. In order for him to run 305s, he has to lift his front end up, and regear the sucker eventually.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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I was talking to sliver a while back and I think he said it would be about 500-800 per axle to regear are trucks. He said that was with parts.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2009 | 07:31 PM
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Well what I do know is that for a Yukon ring and pinion set, it goes for about $300. So for both axles, parts alone cost about $600. Then a lot of guys will suggest buying an overhaul kit while your in there anyways, and I believe those can go for about $100 per axle as well. So now your up to roughly $800 for parts alone. Then, depending on the shop, they generally ask for $300-600 for installation. Then to compound the situation further, a lot of people figure while they are having their differentials taken apart, it'd be the best time to swap the carrier to a limited slip or locker. It can get very expensive, and it's why most people avoid doing it to begin with. But to me, I think it's one of the most impressive modifications you can do to a vehicle that will give you power in any kind of driving conditions.

Silver, how much did you pay in total for your 4.56s and installation all together?
 

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Old Feb 21, 2009 | 07:44 PM
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$1800, but that included a new Auburn limited slip in the rear (about $325).
 
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Old Feb 21, 2009 | 09:58 PM
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So did you pay about $400 per axle for installation?

Also, wanted some insight for you to Silver. My brother has been thinking about lifting his truck up and installing 4.56 gears. It makes me worried though. It seems like once you install 4.56s, one would have to stay with the 35" tires. Do you feel like you could ever size your tires down if you had to with the 4.56s? My guess is a 4.56 would be too big for a 285 sized tire though.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2009 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 01DodgeRam360
Also, wanted some insight for you to Silver. My brother has been thinking about lifting his truck up and installing 4.56 gears. It makes me worried though. It seems like once you install 4.56s, one would have to stay with the 35" tires. Do you feel like you could ever size your tires down if you had to with the 4.56s? My guess is a 4.56 would be too big for a 285 sized tire though.

It wouldn't be that great for long haul highway driving. Does he have an overdrive tranny?

Dodge power wagons come with 4.56 gears and 285's from the factory. But they also have an overdrive.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2009 | 10:18 PM
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Yes, the truck does have overdrive. He doesn't wheel the truck ever either.

The only reason he's contemplating 35" tires is because just for him to level his truck, he has to buy a "shackle reverse kit". For a quality one, they cost about $450. Then about another $300-$350 for installation. That's about $800 just to level his front end up. However, rough country makes a 4" suspension lift for his truck for $1200, so almost seem worth going crazy and raising it high. To me, 305s are fine because I didn't have to touch my suspension to fit them, but if I was spending big bucks just to fit a 305, then I'd probably be wanting to go with a 35" tire and 4" lift too. However, if he goes with a 35" tire, then he definitely can't get away with 3.55 gearing like he probably could for awhile with 305s.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2009 | 11:36 PM
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Ya, I think I would be fine going back to down to a 33". It would be a stump puller on the bottom end, that's for sure. I don't ever drive on the interstate, so the fastest my truck ever sees on the top end, even on long hauls, is about 60-65 mph. With the overdrive, I think even that would be doable with 33's and 4.56's. If I drove on the interstate all the time at speeds of 75-80, then no, I wouldn't want 4.56's and 33's. But hta's just not how I use my truck. Some do though.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2009 | 11:40 PM
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I don't Silver your truck didn't that goofy with 6'' of lift. But I've always thought your truck was pretty awesome. If a guy put 33x12.5 tires on it I think that would look neat in a way.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2009 | 11:48 PM
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You had to see it in person I guess. I only had it that way for about a week, but I thought it looked funny. 35's are a much more proportional tire for 6" of lift.
 
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