I have a '95 Dodge ram 2500 w/a V-10, 2" leveling kit, and superspring helper springs. I am looking to put LT255/85R16 tires on my truck. I've narrowed my choices to the Cooper Discoverer S/T, and, the Toyo Open Country M/T. I have read the online reviews about these two tires, I'm just wondering if any of you guys have any comments on these tires, pros & cons. I am currently running Nitto Terra Grapplers, LT285/75R16, got just over 29K miles on them, with maybe 1/4 tread left. I want a 33" tire, but, a narrower tire. Any thoughts?? Thanks, Bigfoot.

 

I like the look of the toyo to much money for me. Toyo's are the new mickey's.

 

Well the Toyo m/t is a mud terrain tire, and the Discoverer ST is an all-terrain. Discoverer does make the STT though which is a mud terrain.

I'm looking at getting a new set of tires too and I've looked at all 3 and then some. Discoverer STs are awesome all terrain tires, probably the best. They wear like iron, and they do pretty well on the trail and in light mud, but nothing deep. Discoverer STTs and Toyos are alot more agressive if you're looking to spend time in the soupy stuff. They won't last as long and they'll be a little less friendly on the road. They toyos get better mileage from what I hear, but they're also pretty damn expensive. Also with the mud terrain tires you're going to want to rotate them every 2500-3000 miles, and pay really close attention to the air pressure.

 

They both suck... get some BFG's or Dick Cepek

 

I traditionally run BFG AT's with very few complainte, but currently have the Toyo M/T's. It really is an amazing tire in my opinion. They look awesome, balance and wear perfectly, are quiet going down the road, load range E, great in the mud and deep snow. I have few complaints about them overall, and I am very picky.

The few things I would hold against them:

-If they had a weakness, it would be their performance on ice, but that is normal for any mud terrain tire, and I think the Toyo is still above par in this category compared to other mud terrains on the market. A/T's are better in this aspect due to increased amount of siping. The Toyo does have more siping then most other M/T's on the market (most have no siping at all), so I think it is still above par on ice for the type of tire it is. Plus, you can get additional siping done at tire stores if it is really bothering you.

-They are heavy. But again, that is expected for a E rated tire with an aggressive M/T tread. Might cost you a little more in MPG versus an A/T tire due to the extra weight and poorer rolling resistance.

-Price. People complain about how expensive they are. It's true, they are a little more, but it is not that much more. I think they are easily worth the price though. I'd say they are better then 90% of the tires on the market. For this, you pay a little more.

That's about it. Id definitely buy them again if I still need a mud terrain tire next time around.

 

Have you actually used both to be able to say that?

 

I doubt it. He's rockin some BFG mall terrains right now.

But on that not note I rarely hear anything bad about BFG mud or all terrains (except the all terrains don't clean out)

 

Yup, that was my one and only complaint with the BFG A/T, it was terrible in the mud. Everywhere else (snow, ice, dirt, wet/dry pavement), I had no complaints.

 

I love lamp

 

what's lamp?