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#11
would new gears really make it much faster or a lil faster. my budy has a chevy 1500 single cab with a 6"susoension lift and a 3" body lift and has 37x13.50's on it. he has the 5.7L in the truck. i know chevys are geared different but he totally whoops me in a race i could have a 20 car head start and still lose does the gears really matter that much or does the engine size the big problem but if it is his engine aint that much bigger
#12
#13
JasonW... I know of a cummins powered 2nd gen Ram with a few "mods" that has been dynoed in at about 650 ft lbs of torque. He can incinerate his 35 inch tires at the drop of a throttle. Oh...he has 3:55s. So yes, you can overcome poor gearing and weight with mondo torque. It's tougher with a gasser, and generally requires a LOT of work (read money).
The gears only mutiply the availible torque your engine produces, and because they do it on the bottom end of the horespower scale, you will lose it on the other end unless you increase the availble horsepower. As others have stated, the 5.2 is a very old design saddled with making an increasingly heavier vehicle move. When you start modding the suspension and tires you need to modify the powertrain to make up the excess drag those items place on it. Eventually you will not be able to overcome the displacement, or not without serious and increasingly unreliable mods.
The gears only mutiply the availible torque your engine produces, and because they do it on the bottom end of the horespower scale, you will lose it on the other end unless you increase the availble horsepower. As others have stated, the 5.2 is a very old design saddled with making an increasingly heavier vehicle move. When you start modding the suspension and tires you need to modify the powertrain to make up the excess drag those items place on it. Eventually you will not be able to overcome the displacement, or not without serious and increasingly unreliable mods.
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JasonW... I know of a cummins powered 2nd gen Ram with a few "mods" that has been dynoed in at about 650 ft lbs of torque. He can incinerate his 35 inch tires at the drop of a throttle. Oh...he has 3:55s. So yes, you can overcome poor gearing and weight with mondo torque. It's tougher with a gasser, and generally requires a LOT of work (read money).
My point still stands, there is no real substitute for proper gears. Sure, you can add a ton more power and compensate somewhat, but just think of all that power AND proper gears...
#18
All the power your engine can make is no good if you can't get the revs up where it is usable. Large tires combined with high gearing (low numerically) means it takes longer for your engine to get to the sweet spot of its rev range. It will be a dog off the line and take forever to pull through the shifts.
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Actually you can overgear a torque monster...he readlines about 4500 rpm. 4:56s will kill his top end.
Because there is so little difference in the hp and torque between a 5.2 and 5.9 from the factory, it is possible that the 5.2 responds better to certain mods than its big brother. The 5.9 or we used to call a 360, has never been an impressive motor. You should know (and I remember) that the 360 was a smogger motor designed to replace the performance 340 and the slug 400 big block (and the gas slurping emissions destroying 440) depending on the application. In an age where it was creeping into bankrupcy, the 360 cut Ma Mopars production and certification costs. It did niether job exceptionaly well, but then again we were working with 3400lb Dusters and 4000lb trucks. But, I degress.
Oh, I remember...I reread the two original posts...and the numbers don't work. If you are "racing" another truck with a lift and 37 inch tires, and he has a stock 350 motor or even a couple of bolt ons, and the stock gears (which are usually 3:73s) he shouldn't have any low end either. There's no frelling way! I'm sorry guys, the factory motor wouldn't, couldn't make this happen.
Because there is so little difference in the hp and torque between a 5.2 and 5.9 from the factory, it is possible that the 5.2 responds better to certain mods than its big brother. The 5.9 or we used to call a 360, has never been an impressive motor. You should know (and I remember) that the 360 was a smogger motor designed to replace the performance 340 and the slug 400 big block (and the gas slurping emissions destroying 440) depending on the application. In an age where it was creeping into bankrupcy, the 360 cut Ma Mopars production and certification costs. It did niether job exceptionaly well, but then again we were working with 3400lb Dusters and 4000lb trucks. But, I degress.
Oh, I remember...I reread the two original posts...and the numbers don't work. If you are "racing" another truck with a lift and 37 inch tires, and he has a stock 350 motor or even a couple of bolt ons, and the stock gears (which are usually 3:73s) he shouldn't have any low end either. There's no frelling way! I'm sorry guys, the factory motor wouldn't, couldn't make this happen.
Last edited by dsertdog56; 06-01-2009 at 10:25 AM.