Electric Fan Info Thread.
#141
#142
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First, lol@ Miami
I should clarify where I’m going with this, because I’m sure I’ve bounced around with my intentions from the start. Started this project to find a fan to move a legitimate 2000 cfm in our trucks, around 10 amp of draw, and under $100. It wasn’t until I started getting feedback from the manufacturers that it escalated into much more than a random Ram installation.
Initially, I considered providing a testing service for the aftermarket industry, as I have the equipment and capabilities to do it. Never felt it would be a huge source of revenue for my business, and viewed it as a hobby on the side. (This is when I was talking about a national standard) However, abandoned that because it became evident quickly that nearly half the industry is lying about the fan performance and why would they try to document it?
Let me explain what I was thinking about with ‘national standard’…may not have gone into detail earlier and too lazy to go back through and read the thread, so sorry if it’s a repeat. I wanted to provide a very basic service. Let a fan manufacture send me a fan, and for a fee, would test it out from 0-.8” s.p., produce a curve for them to show the performance, and then ‘certify’ the fan. It would make it very easy to have anyone look for the certification seal on the box and know the fan would move whatever airflow was shown on the curve. Figured I would set up a web site that would show which fans were certified, and explain the whole process to better educate people on why they should make sure their fan of choice was certified. Figured I’d charge $250 a fan, and the certification seal would be good for the lifetime of that fan. Figured I’d be lucky to make 10k over 5 years, which I could care less about from a business standpoint.
When I had manufactures start to lie (keep in mind, it is in email/print) about how fans performed when installed, I decided screw it, I want to hit them where it hurts. Let me be clear, I live comfortably and don’t care about financial gain from this project. Spent just over 2k on this so far, and will keep spending to test as many fans as I can find the time to do. At some point, plan on handing my findings over to an attorney and letting them run with it. A class action suit should be very easy to get going since anyone who purchased a brand ‘x’ fan that was false advertised could get in on it. Since they have knowingly misled the public for profit, my hope is it bankrupts them. You should not be allowed to lie to the public. Once I give my info to the attorney, I want nothing to do with it, outside of to testify if it’s needed.
Regarding testing, if they have any legit test done with certified equipment, repeatable at ‘0’ s.p., and I have a legit test at ‘0’ s.p., we should have very similar readings, even if the test is different. I have at least 1,000 reports floating around out there with my name on it where I did performance testing on a fan. Sometimes they passed, sometimes they didn’t, and I know the second I put the report in the mail, I’m subject to suit if they believe I’m not testing the fan properly. Never had an issue and we’ve been called in as an ‘expert’ in suits in the past.
I’ll go into more with your mounting thoughts later, and thought a lot of the same as I got into this. Just been on the road this week and the woman walked by my office in a lil t shirt…I’m out…..lol
I should clarify where I’m going with this, because I’m sure I’ve bounced around with my intentions from the start. Started this project to find a fan to move a legitimate 2000 cfm in our trucks, around 10 amp of draw, and under $100. It wasn’t until I started getting feedback from the manufacturers that it escalated into much more than a random Ram installation.
Initially, I considered providing a testing service for the aftermarket industry, as I have the equipment and capabilities to do it. Never felt it would be a huge source of revenue for my business, and viewed it as a hobby on the side. (This is when I was talking about a national standard) However, abandoned that because it became evident quickly that nearly half the industry is lying about the fan performance and why would they try to document it?
Let me explain what I was thinking about with ‘national standard’…may not have gone into detail earlier and too lazy to go back through and read the thread, so sorry if it’s a repeat. I wanted to provide a very basic service. Let a fan manufacture send me a fan, and for a fee, would test it out from 0-.8” s.p., produce a curve for them to show the performance, and then ‘certify’ the fan. It would make it very easy to have anyone look for the certification seal on the box and know the fan would move whatever airflow was shown on the curve. Figured I would set up a web site that would show which fans were certified, and explain the whole process to better educate people on why they should make sure their fan of choice was certified. Figured I’d charge $250 a fan, and the certification seal would be good for the lifetime of that fan. Figured I’d be lucky to make 10k over 5 years, which I could care less about from a business standpoint.
When I had manufactures start to lie (keep in mind, it is in email/print) about how fans performed when installed, I decided screw it, I want to hit them where it hurts. Let me be clear, I live comfortably and don’t care about financial gain from this project. Spent just over 2k on this so far, and will keep spending to test as many fans as I can find the time to do. At some point, plan on handing my findings over to an attorney and letting them run with it. A class action suit should be very easy to get going since anyone who purchased a brand ‘x’ fan that was false advertised could get in on it. Since they have knowingly misled the public for profit, my hope is it bankrupts them. You should not be allowed to lie to the public. Once I give my info to the attorney, I want nothing to do with it, outside of to testify if it’s needed.
Regarding testing, if they have any legit test done with certified equipment, repeatable at ‘0’ s.p., and I have a legit test at ‘0’ s.p., we should have very similar readings, even if the test is different. I have at least 1,000 reports floating around out there with my name on it where I did performance testing on a fan. Sometimes they passed, sometimes they didn’t, and I know the second I put the report in the mail, I’m subject to suit if they believe I’m not testing the fan properly. Never had an issue and we’ve been called in as an ‘expert’ in suits in the past.
I’ll go into more with your mounting thoughts later, and thought a lot of the same as I got into this. Just been on the road this week and the woman walked by my office in a lil t shirt…I’m out…..lol
#144
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No, actually haven't had any time to work on this for weeks. August is a very busy month for me since my company is in the commercial construction industry. All the schools are now ready for testing and I have impossible deadlines.
I'll post when I have updates, but it won't be anytime soon. Really busy with work and home stuff right now.
I'll post when I have updates, but it won't be anytime soon. Really busy with work and home stuff right now.
#147
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lol...blame the woman on this one.
Planned on doing this stuff while I studied for an exam I was going to take in September. Exam got postponed until spring...
Since that happened, woman decided I should get back to finishing the remodeling project I started last spring. Had convinced her I needed to study for my exam this summer so I could slack off and not finish it until fall...totally backfired on me. Will be spending any free time I have between now and the end of September wrapping up my remodel from hell.
Planned on doing this stuff while I studied for an exam I was going to take in September. Exam got postponed until spring...
Since that happened, woman decided I should get back to finishing the remodeling project I started last spring. Had convinced her I needed to study for my exam this summer so I could slack off and not finish it until fall...totally backfired on me. Will be spending any free time I have between now and the end of September wrapping up my remodel from hell.