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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 95MaroonMonster
you have to buy adjustable ball joints, fawktard
and adjusting the cam bolts will adjust camber...think about it for a second

or i got a better idea, GTFO
in all reality...**** off man
So you are tell me to **** off when I was right? That is funny because you are admitting that you can't use the stock ball joints to adjust caster? wow, who is the idiot?

Now lets consider your adjustable ball joints. I have seen them for the Dana 44 and other smaller axles, but haven't seen any for a Dana 60. They may exist so if you have a link, i would be interested in seeing them. The reason that people wouldn't really go the ball joint route is that you only get limited adjustment out of them. Maybe a degree. When you consider that you are changing about a degree to a degee and a half of caster for each inch you change, it doesn't make a lot of sense to swap a part that makes minimal change. Now you do get camber adjustment, but in reality, unless your axle is bent or you are running auto cross camber shouldn't be something you need to adjust.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 10:32 AM
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im not an idiot, far from it actually

and NOTHING changed on my truck when it was lifted, still drove and handled like it was from the factory
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 95MaroonMonster
im not an idiot, far from it actually

and NOTHING changed on my truck when it was lifted, still drove and handled like it was from the factory
There is no mathematical way to add two inches and nothing to change. I don't care if you disagree with me because I made you look stupid after all you internet tough guy talk, but math does not lie. How you perceive the feeling and handling of your truck is completely subjective. I can not tell you what you can or can't feel, but what I can tell you is that numbers have changed.

I am finished with this thread unless someone provides factual data and not opinions. You are free to continue your silly banter of insults and stupidty if that makes you feel better about your lack of knowledge.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by sungod
There is no mathematical way to add two inches and nothing to change. I don't care if you disagree with me because I made you look stupid after all you internet tough guy talk, but math does not lie. How you perceive the feeling and handling of your truck is completely subjective. I can not tell you what you can or can't feel, but what I can tell you is that numbers have changed.

I am finished with this thread unless someone provides factual data and not opinions. You are free to continue your silly banter of insults and stupidty if that makes you feel better about your lack of knowledge.
BS, bs, Bee Ess. Attention ****** are never "finished".
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by sungod
There is no mathematical way to add two inches and nothing to change. I don't care if you disagree with me because I made you look stupid after all you internet tough guy talk, but math does not lie. How you perceive the feeling and handling of your truck is completely subjective. I can not tell you what you can or can't feel, but what I can tell you is that numbers have changed.

I am finished with this thread unless someone provides factual data and not opinions. You are free to continue your silly banter of insults and stupidty if that makes you feel better about your lack of knowledge.
i have a feeling your just a little ***** using the internet to feel better about yourself, your lucky i don't see you in public...i want a new front bumper...hint hint
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 12:16 PM
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Caster is adjusted with the cam bolts on the lower control arm. It rotates the axle forward and backward. The knuckles are fixed and will rotate with the entire axle. You adjust caster on these trucks with the cam bolts.

Toe is adjusted with the steering linkage. It gives the car that pigeon toe look.

Camber is the tilt of the wheel side to side and cannot be easily adjusted. It makes it look like the wheel is going to fall off. You adjust camber with offset ball joints. Here is an offset ball joint.
http://www.ingallseng.com/23800-seri...all-joint.html

A lift on a solid axle will not change the camber much at all. It will require a change in caster though. That's why you should get an alignment afterwards. A taller spring moves the axle back and rotates the axle pinion down. So you rotate (adjust caster) back to proper alignment. The more you lift the truck, the more you'll have to adjust.

The rake allows the truck to sit level with a load on the back. This helps with steering. If it sat level unloaded and then front high with a load, your front tires have less weight on them. If it is bad enough, you have really light steering and it will get squirelly. If you want it level for looks, make sure you don't do a lot of heavy towing.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by sungod
There is no mechanical means to adjust caster. It does not exist.
You are wrong. One should never speak in absolutes. You should have quit while you were behind.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 12:33 PM
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by VWandDodge
Holy shiat! I didn't know we had a resident know-it-all dumbass on this board. I'll have to check in more regularly!
Originally Posted by Silver_Dodge
I think we have a few actually.

Sorry, I'm tryin' ya know...
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by aim4squirrels

Originally Posted by VWandDodge
Holy shiat! I didn't know we had a resident know-it-all dumbass on this board. I'll have to check in more regularly!
Originally Posted by Silve_Dodge
I think we have a few actually.
Sorry, I'm tryin' ya know...
You and zman17 need to come over to my place. zman and I will drink beers and have some fun throwing the empty bottles at you and giggle every time we bounce one offa your noggin'
 
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