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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Miami_Son
You are wrong. One should never speak in absolutes. You should have quit while you were behind.
Man, he lives in the world of wrong. He lives on Wrong st. in the city of Wrong. Like that guy on Saturday Night Live used to say, wrongozilla, wrongolima, wrongozolia,wrongomongo.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Aubrey
Caster is adjusted with the cam bolts on the lower control arm. It rotates the axle forward and backward. The knuckles are fixed and will rotate with the entire axle. You adjust caster on these trucks with the cam bolts.

Toe is adjusted with the steering linkage. It gives the car that pigeon toe look.

Camber is the tilt of the wheel side to side and cannot be easily adjusted. It makes it look like the wheel is going to fall off. You adjust camber with offset ball joints. Here is an offset ball joint.
http://www.ingallseng.com/23800-seri...all-joint.html

A lift on a solid axle will not change the camber much at all. It will require a change in caster though. That's why you should get an alignment afterwards. A taller spring moves the axle back and rotates the axle pinion down. So you rotate (adjust caster) back to proper alignment. The more you lift the truck, the more you'll have to adjust.

The rake allows the truck to sit level with a load on the back. This helps with steering. If it sat level unloaded and then front high with a load, your front tires have less weight on them. If it is bad enough, you have really light steering and it will get squirelly. If you want it level for looks, make sure you don't do a lot of heavy towing.
Exactly. As you increase lift in the front you decrease caster which is why it important to correct it.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by sungod
Exactly. As you increase lift in the front you decrease caster which is why it important to correct it.
Yep. Just make sure you use the cam bolts to do it.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by sungod
Exactly. As you increase lift in the front you decrease caster which is why it important to correct it.

Which you have stated cannot be done without a torch. And I would never suggest that anyone buy b/joints for the soul purpose of adjusting caster. I simply stated that they do adjust caster also. And yes, very minimal. As far as whether or not they make adjustable ones for a 2500, don't know and doesn't matter, the OP and I have D44's. Which is the axle of topic.

Sorry again Ripto.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 03:31 PM
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How do you reconcile these two obviously contradictory statements you've made? Please, just stop replying. Suspensions and backpedaling are obviously not your forte'.

Originally Posted by sungod
Exactly. As you increase lift in the front you decrease caster which is why it important to correct it.
Originally Posted by sungod
There is no mechanical means to adjust caster. It does not exist.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by VWandDodge
You and zman17 need to come over to my place. zman and I will drink beers and have some fun throwing the empty bottles at you and giggle every time we bounce one offa your noggin'

Can I dance to dodge them?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_9MCIzKyUk
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by zman17
Dude I was just F'n with you.
Well I didn't feel that way.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2009 | 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by sungod
Please show me my adjustable ball joints on my dana 60. The point is that there is not a mechanical means of adjusting just caster. There is a mechanical means for adjusting the length of the lower arm which changes the position of the axle which effectively changes the caster angle. That may work with the stock configuration, but does not as you add lift.


http://www.proryde.com/2000_2002_Dod..._p/44-2496.htm

And , if not so late , I'd show more info to further educate you , you made so many wrong points it just got retarded , maybe I can reply again tomorrow if I have a few spare hours
 
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Old Aug 1, 2009 | 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by onegoodmason
you made so many wrong points it just got retarded
Not to mention that I think he has his camber and caster totally mixed up.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2009 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by onegoodmason

http://www.proryde.com/2000_2002_Dod..._p/44-2496.htm

And , if not so late , I'd show more info to further educate you , you made so many wrong points it just got retarded , maybe I can reply again tomorrow if I have a few spare hours
Interesting find, but as I already mentioned for the minimal gain in change, it probably wouldn't be worth the effort plus cost for the gain. I do find a lot of humor in dip****s just like you so willing to jump in and say that I am wrong, but oddly never have the time to say why. The point is still the same. You add lift you change caster. You can't adjust caster. You can adjust the axle which will change the caster, but also has other negative impacts to other components. If you have the time please point out what is wrong.
 
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