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intake gasket help

Old Aug 28, 2009 | 01:41 AM
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What do you mean about not dropping anything into the heads? Did you work on them? I don't recall reading about work being done on the heads. Did I miss something here?
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 02:17 AM
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This whole catastrophe started out when I did a intake gasket and didn't seem to run right. Since this is now 5 pages I'll clear this up by summing the whole situation up.

I changed the intake gasket, didn't seem to run right. I killed the battery cranking it/not running it for 2 days while it was apart with the doors open ect. Hooked the charger up backwards while rushing, switched the charger back which is when the cranking issue started. New battery, next starter and starter wire. I thought all the oil and antifreeze that was in the intake before I did the gasket hydro locked it, so I pulled the plugs and tried to clear it out. It still turned slow. Took the alt. Out to have it tested, tried to crank it thinking the serp belt or pully was causing it, still nothing. Checked alt wire, it was fine but 140 amp fuse was blown. Got it to crank faster with a jumper to the starter, it started and I let it run for 30 seconds. Could not get that jumper to work again and the starter was hot. During the 2 times I got it to run it was not knocking/pinging and was not misfiring. I also had oil pressure. Today I tried to turn the crank by hand but could not budge it. So after work tomorrow I'll pull the starter and see if I can spin it by hand. When I had the plugs out they were not sooty/no foreign material on them and they were still gapped to .040 so I do not believe anything got in there especially when I was so careful when I did the gasket. I have also tried to crank it in neutral.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 01:54 PM
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pulled the starter off still a no go, the flywheel looked fine and the starter did not have any scratches on the bendix
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 02:43 PM
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Not a good sign then. You have done internal damage to your engine somehow. Something in the engine is bound up causing it not to spin over. Do you know anyone with a boroscope that would lend it to you and you could look into each cylinder through the sparkplug hole and look for damage as in a broken piston or bent/dropped valve? You could try turning the engine in a counter clockwise direction slowly and see if it turns at all. This method is highly frowned upon in the engine world but you may hear whatever is jamming it move. Pull your valve covers and look and see if you dropped a valve that way.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 06:45 PM
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I'll pull the valve covers tomorrow. The engine turns real slow with the starter and the two times I had it running since I did the gasket I have not heard any noises so I'm not sure whats going on. I've heard engines with blown lifters and rod bearings and bent rods so I'm familiar with the knock. I attatched a pic I took right before I put the intake back on. When I put the intake on I did not hit any of the push rods so I know I didnt bend anything.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 06:52 PM
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Im wondering if some old gasket material got caught in the cam gear? Im kind of reaching for ideas now but If theres junk in between the cam and dist. gear causing binding it would bind up the timing gears and the crank? so with the smaller gear on the crank trying to turn the cam its causing it to have so much resistance?
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 07:38 PM
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If you got gasket material between the cam gear and distributor gear you would have either not gotten the distributor back in or it would have what little amount of shavings got in there in seconds, especially since it was running more than once already. Something internal to the engine is bound up. I know it sucks to have to tear into it but it is the only way you are going to find and fix the problem. Wait a minute. Did you have the distributor out when you did the intake gaskets? You might have it really out of time causing your slow crank condition. It could be firing way off from correct timing.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 09:13 PM
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Nope left the dizzy in, I didn't even pull the cap off.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 09:15 PM
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Guess I'll pull the valve covers off tomorrow.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 09:29 PM
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Something is broken, bent, or misaligned causing it to bind up. When you had it running what kind of oil pressure did you have?
 
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