2nd Gen Ram Tech 1994-2001 Rams: This section is for TECHNICAL discussions only, that involve the 1994 through 2001 Rams. For any non-tech discussions, please direct your attention to the "General discussion/NON-tech" sub sections.

How do I fix this-track bar (vid)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #11  
Old 01-17-2010, 10:25 PM
CSXfan's Avatar
CSXfan
CSXfan is offline
All Star
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Southwest Michigan
Posts: 770
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by MrRuckuss
i don't know thats why i am asking but couldn't you just replace the bushing??
Yes, that's what dsertdog56 says anyway. I found some bushings on Advanced auto's website for about $20, so I think I'm just gonna get a set of those.

So is this busing gonna need to be replaced every 10xxx miles? I'm not that hard on my truck, but I'm not exactly nice to it either. What would cause the bushing to die this fast?
 
  #12  
Old 01-17-2010, 10:27 PM
yakkier's Avatar
yakkier
yakkier is offline
Banned
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Burnsville, mn - Pensacola, fl
Posts: 3,667
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Bushings need to be greased regularly to keep them soft and flexible, other wise they dry out and crumble and will cause your problem. Axle grease does nicely
 
  #13  
Old 01-17-2010, 10:37 PM
dsertdog56's Avatar
dsertdog56
dsertdog56 is offline
Record Breaker
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Just south of nowhere in Oklahoma
Posts: 1,822
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Your bushing has a steel sleeve in it that the mounting bolt goes through. If the bolt is not torqued to spec (130 ft lbs) the motion of the bolt against the sleeve as the axle moves will erode either the bushing sleeve, bolt, or both. That's one scenario.
The second is that the bolt and sleeve held, but the bushing was not molded properly and simply self destructed. Not the mostl likely, but still possible.
A third is that the bolt hole is eroded and egg shaped. I'll be interested to see what you find.

You'll have to remove the bolt, bar and check it out.

Its a bit unusual to read that this bushing died so quickly. My track bar has about 7 years and a fair amount of miles on it, the bushing is cracked but still stable.
If you buy a Urethane replacement you'll want to grease the shyte out of it when you install it.

Burnsville Minnesota...I've been by there!
 

Last edited by dsertdog56; 01-17-2010 at 10:51 PM.
  #14  
Old 01-17-2010, 10:46 PM
torp74's Avatar
torp74
torp74 is offline
Professional
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: South Texas
Posts: 207
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

+1 on the bushing. Go with the high end bushings too, don't want to skimp on a part that is involved in 100% of the trucks movement.
 
  #15  
Old 01-17-2010, 11:17 PM
CSXfan's Avatar
CSXfan
CSXfan is offline
All Star
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Southwest Michigan
Posts: 770
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I pulled the bolt out right after I took the vid, but I did not remove the bar. The bolt looked good, as did the hole. I think I found some pieces of the bushing floating around in there, but it might have just been dirt/rust too.

Part of the problem may be that for the first 2 months that this track bar was in, the frame end wasn't seated properly so it was putting extra stress on the axle end. Every time I turn the wheel sharply I could hear and feel a loud clunk as the track bar shifted. That's my guess anyway.

Any recommendations on a good brand of bushing?
 
  #16  
Old 01-17-2010, 11:28 PM
yakkier's Avatar
yakkier
yakkier is offline
Banned
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Burnsville, mn - Pensacola, fl
Posts: 3,667
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Oem's
 
  #17  
Old 01-18-2010, 05:54 PM
iwhitne's Avatar
iwhitne
iwhitne is offline
Record Breaker
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: The Buckeye State... OHIO
Posts: 1,669
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

great info guys.. I'm looking into the cost of doing this as well... I found a moog track bar on rockauto.com for $163.89 and the bushing for $14.42 if that helps anyone...

I think this springs tax return is going to spent on rebuilding the front steering linkage (TRE's and Track Bar), New oil pan/gasket.. and a new tranny pan/filter/gasket/fluid and new val. cov. gaskets.. so far I have $621.25 in parts in my shopping cart.. plus another $100 in fluids I would think

on a side note.. I talked with a tranny guy tonight about doing a back flush.. anyone ever do one of these? He said it also flushes out the torque convertor nd they use 24qts. to flush the whole system... souned a bit strange to me.
 
  #18  
Old 01-18-2010, 09:20 PM
olyelr's Avatar
olyelr
olyelr is offline
Record Breaker
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Elk Rapids, MI
Posts: 2,032
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by iwhitne
great info guys.. I'm looking into the cost of doing this as well... I found a moog track bar on rockauto.com for $163.89 and the bushing for $14.42 if that helps anyone...

I think this springs tax return is going to spent on rebuilding the front steering linkage (TRE's and Track Bar), New oil pan/gasket.. and a new tranny pan/filter/gasket/fluid and new val. cov. gaskets.. so far I have $621.25 in parts in my shopping cart.. plus another $100 in fluids I would think

on a side note.. I talked with a tranny guy tonight about doing a back flush.. anyone ever do one of these? He said it also flushes out the torque convertor nd they use 24qts. to flush the whole system... souned a bit strange to me.

For a stock replacement, I would suggest the Moog unit. From what I remember, they may have a lifetime warranty... not that that really means anything.

As far as flushing the tranny, yeah, just draining the pan only gets 7 quarts or so out, the rest stays in the torque converter. The only way to get it out is to flush it.
 
  #19  
Old 01-18-2010, 09:25 PM
olyelr's Avatar
olyelr
olyelr is offline
Record Breaker
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Elk Rapids, MI
Posts: 2,032
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Oh yeah, and our trucks no doubt have a track bar issue, but I will say my truck is in the mid 160k mile range and still has the original unit installed which still happens to be in good shape (no play anyway). And all those miles have been with 3" of suspension lift with no track bar lowering bracket. It may just be a fluke though.
 
  #20  
Old 01-18-2010, 09:29 PM
iwhitne's Avatar
iwhitne
iwhitne is offline
Record Breaker
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: The Buckeye State... OHIO
Posts: 1,669
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

thanks for the info.. do you think I should get a flush or do it the old fashion way? I need to replace the gasket soon because it's starting to leak a little... maybe I'll get the flush.. then drop the pan and replace the filter and gasket?
 



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:21 AM.