Truck died on highway
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Truck died on highway
Yesterday morning I was driving down the highway moving right along with traffic, as traffic slowed and came to a stop my truck decided to stop too. Truck stalled in middle of 4 lane highway and would not start again, ended up having to be towed. Any ideas why this may have happened? I have fuel air and spark. Replaced the coil and tps(broke when i was trying to get to distributor) truck now runs ok. I am thinking my fuel pump may be dying as was not alot of pressure in fuel rail... gonna test with guage tonight. Any suggestions?
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Depending on when you measured, it is NORMAL for the pressure to read 0 psi.
You'll want to measure the psi at the rails when it's running and, after. Spec is 49 psi ± 5 psi. ON the older Ram model such as a 94, spec is 36 psi ± 5.
What your going to look for is one or more of the following:
-bouncing reading
-sudden drop in pressure and then returns to normal
-sudden rise in pressure and then returns to normal
-steady, low pressure (below specs)
There's also another system that can also create the same symptom and that is the Emissions system.
-EVAP canister - has been reported to induce stall out under certain conditions.
One other thing to check:
COIL: Intermittent coil either from two possible causes:
1. LOSS of voltage to INPUT of coil- ASD relay is going out or,
2. LOSS of ground to the coil connector
2.1 PCM coil driver CKT is intermittent thus not switching on ground
2.2 Loose / intermittent ground connection at PCM multi pin or connector
2.3 Loose / intermittent connection at coil connector / corrosion
OTHER POSSIBLE CAUSES:
Complete Loss of Power: ASD relay- may have gone south and went OPEN CKT thus, no power at all to the EFI system including ignition and fuel pump.
Failure / Intermittent FUEL PUMP relay.
Start there.
CM
You'll want to measure the psi at the rails when it's running and, after. Spec is 49 psi ± 5 psi. ON the older Ram model such as a 94, spec is 36 psi ± 5.
What your going to look for is one or more of the following:
-bouncing reading
-sudden drop in pressure and then returns to normal
-sudden rise in pressure and then returns to normal
-steady, low pressure (below specs)
There's also another system that can also create the same symptom and that is the Emissions system.
-EVAP canister - has been reported to induce stall out under certain conditions.
One other thing to check:
COIL: Intermittent coil either from two possible causes:
1. LOSS of voltage to INPUT of coil- ASD relay is going out or,
2. LOSS of ground to the coil connector
2.1 PCM coil driver CKT is intermittent thus not switching on ground
2.2 Loose / intermittent ground connection at PCM multi pin or connector
2.3 Loose / intermittent connection at coil connector / corrosion
OTHER POSSIBLE CAUSES:
Complete Loss of Power: ASD relay- may have gone south and went OPEN CKT thus, no power at all to the EFI system including ignition and fuel pump.
Failure / Intermittent FUEL PUMP relay.
Start there.
CM
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Ran codes found upstream o2 to be tripping ASD, replaced sensor and ran better but still not how it should be, still stalls randomly but will restart 9 out of 10 times... if only cranks i can pull and put back ASD relay and will fire over again without issue... I am lost at this point
I know the O2 sensor supply is tied off the ASD but, I will have to research that comment about it tripping the failsafe mechanism- to my knowledge, I don't think that it does. Hell, you can pull it out and it will still run. Some have even disconnected it completely and it still ran so, the only way that I can see it tripping the ASD relay is if the O2 sensor were SHORTING inside.
A SHORT on that side would be seen at the PCM level and it would cut all power to the ASD relay.
R&R your O2 sensor and re TEST. Recommendation: Use the OEM recommended NTK brand of O2 sensors vs. Bosch. WHY?
I have had issues with Bosch sensors and plugs over periods of time that were way under the rated use life. Since going back NTK I have yet to experience a failure. Plus, if I am not mistaken, the NTK also have a higher tolerance to heat and are less prone to clogging than Bosch's too.
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