Comparing street driven vehicles, to race driven vehicles doesn't work. That is an ENTIRELY different ball of wax.

The idea behind emissions is to reduce the nasty chemicals that are natural byproducts of burning petroleum based fuels. Reducing those numbers on the MILLIONS of street driven vehicles has a major impact on air quality. Adding the restrictions to the couple thousand dedicated race vehicles would not have nearly as profound an affect. Racers don't drive them day in, and day out, and when they do, it's for a couple hours max. (for the most part.)

Stating that emissions controls on STREET vehicles are 'useless', is missing the point entirely.

 

Okay I agree with this. But chastising people that want better performance for removing them on trucks that are 10-15 years old is counterproductive. Me removing this from my truck is a drop in the bucket compared to the millions of cars on the road with properly functioning emissions systems. I am not advocating removal of them on grandpa's Lexus.

EDIT: Unless of course Grandpa wants better performance!

 

This is from someone who will remain nameless..lol

" You can install parts which do not meet DOT standards on your own rig if you wish. The rule do not apply to private citizens and their personal vehicles. A manufacturer is not supposed to sell parts for use on public roads that do not meet any applicable standards. A business is not supposed to install parts which do not meet the standards on vehicles for use on public roads.

But DOT has no enforcement mission, and the federal goverment has no regulations pertaining to private citizens in terms of DOT standards,soitisnot something which never comes up except potentially in an after acccident court proceeding (never heard of this happebing in a private citizen/vehicles situation) or in the case of a state which may specify in their own statues a requirement against non-DOT standard parts and which takes it on itself to enforce their local levelstatues."

 

But, removing it it doesn't do a damn thing to performance. Not better, not worse. You save a couple pounds of weight, that's it. In a 5000+ pound truck, it does all of nothing.

It IS a street driven vehicle. The systems were put in place for a reason. Personally, I rather like having clean air to breathe. (which is why I don't live in Cleveland..... ) Sure, 'just one guy' doing it won't make a lot of difference, trouble is, it ISN'T 'just one guy'. A fair few folks actually do so, and all of us suffer for it. (sure, maybe we don't suffer much..... but..... every little bit we can do to protect our environment, without undue pain and strain, is a good thing, right?)

 

If it makes you feel any better, the trucks a 99 with 38k on the clock. 18,000 of those have been in the last 10 years with the cell in place.

PS, truck weighted in at 4072 with half tank of fuel and a driver

 

The proper functioning of the emission system plays a role in how the PCM controls the various engine functions based on the input it receives. Unless all of the parts are in place and "in play", then optimal engine performance will not be achieved.

 

What? You don't drive it? Is this a fifth vehicle in a family with two drivers? Weekend Toy??

Before anyone gets the idea that I am some environmental activist..... yeah, I like to protect the environment, BUT, I am just as guilty as the next guy.... I have removed/gutted cats, disable air injection systems, and a host of other 'environmentally unfriendly' acts..... Sometimes though, it's just easier to fix what ya got, than it is to try and work around it. In this case...... working around it IS probably going to be easiest.... I think..... I haven't explored that heavily into just how the evap system works. Never really cared all that much, because, for the most part, they are pretty dependable. Or, easy to repair..... (something to be said for simple systems.... then dodge had to introduce the leak detection pump..... peachy.)

 

Hey now, I drive it when ever possible. Just doesn't happen as often as I would like, and to answer your question its the 4th vehicle in a single driver family ;-)

 

So how far do you want to carry this? Personally I never plan on owning an electric 4x4. Sorry, ain't for me. I like cylinders and exhaust and the roar of the motor.

So, as with most things, this boils down to politics. The difference is I don't think we should mandate anything. Have one company sell a truck with this crap on it, have another that doesn't. Let the market figure it out. (I don't think you'll like that answer! LOL)

 

I guess companies that make programmers are out of business then...........