primary vs secondary brake shoe, help!
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primary vs secondary brake shoe, help!
i failed inspection because the brake shoes where on backwards and i dont know which shoe goes towrds the front and which ones goe towards the back. some sites say the longer one towards the front, and others say the shorter one towards the front
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download the 01 service manual here.
https://dodgeforum.com/forum/2nd-gen...-gen-rams.html
on page 5-25 thru 5-26, it shows some pics.
the adjuster lever is in the rear on both sides, and the shorter shoe is in front.
https://dodgeforum.com/forum/2nd-gen...-gen-rams.html
on page 5-25 thru 5-26, it shows some pics.
the adjuster lever is in the rear on both sides, and the shorter shoe is in front.
where are you from guy? i used to work at an inspection station and they never ever failed for that kinda stuff. now if the brake pads or shes had less than 3/32nd's on them then they would fail for worn brakes. just switch them and get it re-inspected.
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unfortunately here in va we have apretty hard core inspection:
6. - INSPECT OTHER LIGHTS FOR:11. – INSPECT HORN FOR:17. – INSPECT AIR POLLUTION CONTROL SYSTEM (1973 and Subsequent Models) FOR:
1. - REMOVE OLD INSPECTION STICKER.
2. - DRIVE VEHICLE INTO INSPECTION LANE.
3. - INSPECT BRAKES FOR:
2. - DRIVE VEHICLE INTO INSPECTION LANE.
3. - INSPECT BRAKES FOR:
- Worn, damaged or missing parts.
- Worn, contaminated or defective linings or drums.
- Leaks in system, proper fluid level.
- Worn, contaminated or defective disc pads or discs.
(NOTE: A minimum of two wheels and drums must be removed from each vehicle at the time of inspection. Consult the official inspection manual for exceptions.)
4. - INSPECT PARKING BRAKE FOR:
- Broken or missing parts.
- Proper adjustment.
- Standard factory equipment or equivalent.
5. - INSPECT HEADLIGHTS FOR:
- Approved type, aim, and output.
- Condition of lamp, wiring and switch.
- Beam indicator.
6. - INSPECT OTHER LIGHTS FOR:- Approved type, proper bulbs, condition of lenses, wiring and switch.
- Aim of fog and driving lamps.
- Illumination of all lamps, lens color, and condition of lens.
(NOTE: Every vehicle must have a rear lamp showing a red light to the rear, a white light illuminating the rear license plate; vehicles over 7 feet wide or extending 4 inches or more beyond the front fender extremes must be equipped with approved clearance lamps and reflex reflectors. Count load in measuring.)
7. – INSPECT SIGNAL DEVICE FOR:
- Approved type, proper bulbs, condition of lenses, wiring and switch.
- Correct indications and tell-tale (visual or audible).
- Illumination of all lamps, lens color, and condition of lens.
8. – INSPECT STEERING & SUSPENSION FOR: (Jack up front end as shown in Manual)
- Wear in bushings, kingpins, ball joints, wheel bearings, tie rod ends.
- Looseness of gear box on frame, condition of drag link and steering arm.
- Play in steering wheel.
- Wheel alignment and axle alignment.
- Broken spring leaves, and worn shackles.
- Shock absorbers.
- Broken frame.
- Broken or missing engine mounts.
- Lift blocks.
9. – INSPECT TIRES, WHEELS & RIMS FOR:
- Condition of tires including tread depth.
- Mixing radials and bias ply tires.
- Wheels that are cracked or damaged so as to affect safe operation.
10. – INSPECT MIRROR FOR:
- Rigidity of mounting.
- Condition of reflecting surface.
- View of road to rear (Truck mirrors must extend at least halfway beyond edge of body) – (Visibility 200 feet to rear).
11. – INSPECT HORN FOR:- Electrical connections, mounting and horn button.
- Emits sound audible for a minimum of 200 feet.
12. – INSPECT WINDSHIELD AND OTHER GLASS FOR:
- Approved type safety glass.
- Cloudiness, distortion or other obstruction to vision.
- Cracked, scratched or broken glass.
- Stickers. ALL UNAUTHORIZED STICKERS MUST BE REMOVED.
- Sunshading material attached to the windshield to ensure it does not extend more than 3 inches downward from the top of windshield, unless authorized by Medical Waiver Certificate.
- Operation of left front door glass.
13. – INSPECT WINDSHIELD WIPER/DEFROSTER FOR:
- Operating condition.
- Condition of blade.
14. – INSPECT EXHAUST SYSTEM FOR:
- Exhaust line-manifold, gaskets, pipes, mufflers, connections, etc.
- Leakage of gases at any point from motor to point discharged from system.
15. – INSPECT LICENSE TAGS FOR:
- Illumination of rear plate.
16. – INSPECT HOOD AND AREA UNDER THE HOOD FOR:
- Operating condition of hood latch.
- Presence of emissions system -Evidence that any essential parts have been removed, rendered inoperative or disconnected.
- Fluid levels that are below the proper level
1. Brake fluid.
2. Power steering fluid. - Power steering belt - proper tension, wear, or absence.
17. – INSPECT AIR POLLUTION CONTROL SYSTEM (1973 and Subsequent Models) FOR:- Installation.
- Operation.
(NOTE: This includes the catalytic converter and the fuel tank filler pipe.)
18. – INSPECT DRIVER’S SEAT FOR:
- Anchorage.
- Location.
- Condition.
19. – INSPECT SEAT BELTS FOR:
- Approved type.
- Installation.
- Any defects in the air bag system noted by the air bag readiness light, or otherwise indicated; or
- The air bag has been deployed and has not been replaced (and is not deactivated because of a medical or other exemption and a notice is posted to indicate that it has been deactivated); or
- Any part of the air bag system has been removed from the vehicle; or
- If the air bag indicator fails to light, or stays on continuously.
- Handle or opening device which will permit the opening of the door from the outside and inside of the vehicle.
- Latching system which will hold door in its proper closed position.
22. – INSPECT FUEL SYSTEM FOR:
- Any part that is not securely fastened.
- Liquid fuel leakage.
- Fuel tank filler cap for presence.
23. – INSPECT FLOOR PAN FOR:
(a) Holes which allow exhaust gases to enter occupant compartment.
(b) Conditions which create a hazard to the occupants.
24. – ISSUE STICKER:
(a) If approved, place approval sticker on the vehicle, and give pink copy of certificate to operator.
(b) ALL DEFECTS MUST BE CORRECTED AND THE VEHICLE REINSPECTED WITHIN 15 DAYS.
THE DRIVER MAY BE IN JEOPARDY OF RECEIVING A SUMMONS FOR ANY DEFECT STILL
PRESENT ANY TIME THE VEHICLE IS OPERATED ON THE HIGHWAY.
(a) Holes which allow exhaust gases to enter occupant compartment.
(b) Conditions which create a hazard to the occupants.
24. – ISSUE STICKER:(a) If approved, place approval sticker on the vehicle, and give pink copy of certificate to operator.
(b) ALL DEFECTS MUST BE CORRECTED AND THE VEHICLE REINSPECTED WITHIN 15 DAYS.
THE DRIVER MAY BE IN JEOPARDY OF RECEIVING A SUMMONS FOR ANY DEFECT STILL
PRESENT ANY TIME THE VEHICLE IS OPERATED ON THE HIGHWAY.
(NOTE: The validity period of the rejection sticker shall include fifteen (15) days in addition to the day of the inspection.)
anyhow, my front tires were bald too so it wouldnt pass today anyway, i ordered some cheap yokohamas online, all he said was the shoes were on backwards and i figured i could figure it out easy enough, now that theyre installed correctly the pedal is much firmer
anyhow, my front tires were bald too so it wouldnt pass today anyway, i ordered some cheap yokohamas online, all he said was the shoes were on backwards and i figured i could figure it out easy enough, now that theyre installed correctly the pedal is much firmer
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Va inspections are a PIA. Some guys are way to critical and will fail you to get extra work. I had a guy fail my mustang because he said my rear brake hose was cracked. I asked him to show me and he pointed to a hose on the axle. I said, "I thought you said the brake hose was cracked?" He said "it is, see this dry rot??" and point to the hose. I said "I still don't see the dry rot on the brake hose". He got irritated and jumped under the car and grabbed the hose and said "Right here, don't you see the cracks?" I said "yes I see the cracks in that hose, but I don't see a crack in the brake hose, that hose you have in your hand is the vent for the rear axle. You can't fail me for a cracked vent hose." He got mad and ripped the rejection sticker off the window and put the passed one on. He then told me that I really needed to get that hose replaced.
Since then I go to another shop where the guy does his inspection in about 5 mins and checks nothing. My rf caliper had froze and chewed the rotor. He didn't care. Passed it anyway.
Since then I go to another shop where the guy does his inspection in about 5 mins and checks nothing. My rf caliper had froze and chewed the rotor. He didn't care. Passed it anyway.
