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Old Dec 17, 2010 | 04:43 AM
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but i also have all the bells and whistles that are supposed to go with a lift.
All the bells and whistles eh? I don't see any coilovers, links, or trussing under there.. Looks like you DON'T have everything.


OP, if you really want to go that high fine. However, you need to first make the drivetrain stronger. Truss up the axles, build new hangers and shackles. Piece together a leaf pack that will be heavier duty/cheap, or go with links. (Just as cheap) I highly recommend some sort of rebuildable shock absorber also, because with tires that heavy and a drivetrain that heavy, you'll be eating up shocks, Not to mention craptastic monotube shocks in extended lengths are almost as expensive as a middle of the road rebuildable anyways. FOA is a good way to go if you go that direction. They start around $130 for a smooth. For the front, I would recommend a coilover to help with control. Ditch the factory steering and replace it with a simple set of rods w/ heims a the ends. Also get some larger brakes. Everyone is going to tell you that your truck will stop just fine with factory brakes, which will be true for a while. However over time the heat from all the extra weight will destroy the brakes.

You could probably source all of the above parts for under $3000 if you know where to look and spend a while hunting everything down for cheap. If you buy all that outright brand new, you're looking at about 7.



Thats not how I would do it, but thats pretty good start that will make something that large at least safe to drive.

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Old Dec 17, 2010 | 10:19 AM
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If you look, you will note that he has 3/4 ton axles. So, he already has bigger brakes, stronger axles, etc.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2010 | 12:46 PM
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If you look, you will note that he has 3/4 ton axles. So, he already has bigger brakes, stronger axles, etc.
I could break an untrussed rockwell in about 15 minites of light mobbing. Trussing takes only a few hours to do, and if properly done makes the housing near invincible. It cost me $25 worth of materials to truss my Expedition.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2010 | 12:55 PM
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Wrong truck to make a 10in lift on IMO. Start with a 3/4 or 1 ton truck and go from the ground up. Even if its for looks it would be done right.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2010 | 01:34 PM
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I could break an untrussed rockwell in about 15 minites of light mobbing. Trussing takes only a few hours to do, and if properly done makes the housing near invincible. It cost me $25 worth of materials to truss my Expedition.
In all my years of off-roading, I have never broken an axle housing. Not even once. I have grenaded a LOT on internals though...... He is not racing, he is not purposely abusive. So, where is the advantage?

Sure, if you SET OUT to break something, it becomes very easy. Most rational folks I know though, don't do that.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2010 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by HeyYou
In all my years of off-roading, I have never broken an axle housing. Not even once. I have grenaded a LOT on internals though...... He is not racing, he is not purposely abusive. So, where is the advantage?

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He is putting extremely heavy tires on extremely heavy wheels under something with a high center gravity thay is going to have a lot of lateral roll. Truss or failboat.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2010 | 02:42 PM
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Maximum recommended tire size for dana 60 axles is 38.5 inch. He is still under that.

The heavy wheels/tires are sitting on the ground, so, they are not contributing to raising the center of gravity. The tires have a wider footprint than stock, so will work to reduce the likely hood of rollover under normal driving conditions.

It is a four wheel drive truck. not a corvette. If you try and drive it like a corvette, you are going to be in trouble. Or dead. I would like to think that the member is question is well aware of that fact.

Trussing the axles will do all of nothing to stabilize the truck. They are unnecessary, and would simply add additional weight, that the truck does not need.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2010 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by HeyYou
Maximum recommended tire size for dana 60 axles is 38.5 inch. He is still under that.

The heavy wheels/tires are sitting on the ground, so, they are not contributing to raising the center of gravity. The tires have a wider footprint than stock, so will work to reduce the likely hood of rollover under normal driving conditions.

It is a four wheel drive truck. not a corvette. If you try and drive it like a corvette, you are going to be in trouble. Or dead. I would like to think that the member is question is well aware of that fact.

Trussing the axles will do all of nothing to stabilize the truck. They are unnecessary, and would simply add additional weight, that the truck does not need.
yup... i ran 38.5 tires for a long time on my 2500, not any more tho only 35's, and have a **** load of power going to the ground, and beat mine to death, over 350k on the clock now, and never an axle problem yet, other than of coarse front end ball joints, which have only been changed once, and lasted well past the 200k mark

i cleared the 38.5's with only 4.5" lift (but the 2500's sit taller stock), but they wernt wide @ 11" and only an 8" wide wheel, but any thing over 6" lift, i would advise a long arm kit, i'm sitting on about 6.5" right know, and just installed a dick cepeck long arm kit, and what a difference in the ride!!! its awsome, maby look into their kits, i "think" they were around $12-1300 for 7" with long arm kit, and i think they go bigger too...
 

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Old Dec 17, 2010 | 05:04 PM
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well......i wasnt going to say anythign to this guy.....but i guess ya'll covered for me...lol
 
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Old Dec 17, 2010 | 07:38 PM
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Really? What were you going to say? Something along the lines of how awesome blocks and spacers are?


Real suspension > toy suspension.
 
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