At least I'll be restoring that big purple thing in my signature.

 

And because that'll be right around the time I'm too old to be a safe driver, some "kid" is going to be shickled titless to get his hands on my "resto-mod" truck.

Maybe he'll crush a fart can ricer with it.

 

I hope he does someday. I don't mind four cylinder cars ... at all. What I can't stand is when someone tries to make it sound like an Indy car. I had one at the stop light next to me running his motor to like 9k RPM a few days ago. They assume just because I've got a loud exhaust on my truck that I like to race just as much as they do ... well, I like to race, but only on the track. I yelled out the window that I would race him at Thompson someday with my Challenger. I'll probably never see him there though. These teenagers around here just want to street race and kill innocent bystanders.

There's no replacement for displacement ...

 

[quote=UnregisteredUser;2448142]Yes, you are. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, and I know some teenagers, girls even, who are into muscle cars or even older classics. But the bulk of the money being spent in the classic auto aftermarket is coming from middle aged men.

Take a look at who's driving the concours or resto-mod classics of any era you see on the road today -- most of the time, it's a guy who's just old enough that the car was at or near the bottom of its resale value when he was a teenager, and right behind that it's a guy (in a much, much smaller group) who's just old enough that his father would have been the teenager when the car reached the bottom of its resale value.

Ain't that a sad thought, that 25 years from now there will be a generation of middle aged men who spend their time and money restoring fart can ricers?
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I would hope you had some type of interest in making the market favorable to my generation since sooner then later they will be your niche market (believe it or not). The target market is always going to be that 45+ age group demographic but to say we dont count is a joke because while the numbers are smaller then the middle aged man category the numbers are still are there and we are still buying parts to restore whatever we have and some day we will be in that main demographic market. To ignore us shows real arrogance, Why do you think mopar muscle mag does the young guns club and summit, jegs, legendary, and a few others sponsor it? They are thinking into the future trying to get young people involved. The car shows i attend most of them have a young gun category for me to enter my cars. I alone own three pre 1974 mopars and i know there are others just like me who cant get enough of mopar.
My biggest concern is that there are quite a few old guys out there who sit there and hate on the kids of today when in 15-20 years this "flourishing''(by the way not flourshing anymore, check out barret jacksons prices these days...) classic car market your talking about wont be flourishing anymore because not very many people will be into muscle cars of the pre 70s era. Yes some possibly because they were rubbed the wrong way by people such as yourself.. I am not offended by most the stuff you guys say because most the time your right but picking on a child is where i call the line. I understand that you are doing it to help him in a roundabout way but some of you guys were just taking jabs at him while he was already down and thats wrong. All i was trying to make a point of was that i thought you guys were a little critical on a 15 year old child.

Ya it is a sad thought that in 25 years people willl be restoring imports. (so you do show that you do have an interest of where the future of hotrodding is headed?)

 

It seems that your argument boils down to this: We should all abide a liar, and you should defend him, for two reasons:

1. He is a minor;
2. He might some day spend money at some company in which none of us here has any financial interest whatsoever.

Is that about right? If so, I see no compelling reason to coddle a lying child.

I'm not "hating on" your generation or any other, and you seem to have taken offense was none was intended and none is warranted.

 

1.No. I think you should find a reason to understand why a child would lie, not defend or coddle him because he is a child.

2. I only care about keeping the love for mopars alive, if that means being nice to a kid and maybe believing his story instead of calling bs thats fine by me. If it doesnt have any impact on my daily living then i dont have a problem listening to a story... Even if it is about driving a semi when he was 4..

"I am not offended by most the stuff you guys say because most the time your right but picking on a child is where i call the line."
I guess i shouldnt have put it that way. What i ment to say was im not offended by anything you guys post on the forum because everyone is entitled to their opinions BUT i will not get on the same maturity level as a child and start picking on him or taking jabs at what he is saying. We dont know how much of his story has truth to it, some of it has to be bs but why does anyone even care?? He just asked about a license i dont think he expected to come on here and get grilled by someone else other then his father. I just thought you guys would man up and possibly give this kid an appology yes he is wrong but some of you guys are too. Since when does two wrongs make a right?

 

I'm not going to lay down my life story here, but I assure you that I know more than I ever wanted to know about the two personality disorders most associated with compulsive/pathological liars. The price I've paid for this understanding, both in the strictest sense of knowledge and in the saccharin euphemistic sense of coddling, is far too great. Accordingly, IDGAF to "understand" yet another one. Or, for that matter, to understand the motivation of yet another of their apologists.

I respect your right to abide liars. It's a bad policy, but it's your thang.

I never said anything to or about the liar in question except that he was a liar.

I've said nothing that would call for an apology even in the most hypersensitive of circles. I don't understand why anyone else would be expected to apologize for daring to call a liar a liar.

All I've seen here that is directed at the lying little boy is some ribbing, most of it good-natured, all of it richly deserved. Most of this thread is not even directed at the lying little boy, but is more a discussion of how he's not a favorable representative of his generation and some rebuttals to your curious defense of his bad behavior. I think it's safe, even if not correct, to call this thread just about run out.

 

I see NOT calling someone on a blatant lie as tacit acceptance of said behavior. Does this affect me directly? No, it doesn't. However, is this behavior that we want to tolerate? Shall we give someone the impression that telling tall tales for ANY reason is "OK"? Not in my book. We are doing this kid a SERVICE by calling him on his lies. Discouraging such behavior might cause him to reconsider such an action the next time around. In my view, we are doing society a service as well.

 

He will wake up one day and say to himself that maybe those old farts are right.

I'm really tired of this whole concept of denying ignorance in younh people just because their young in America. Its always something else, never the child or the parents, its the internet, its TV, its the public schools, its the paint he was huffing to get away from the bully. <insert sarcasam HERE>

 

This is all just too funny. lmao lol


Honestly who gives a ****. WE should be more worried about whats gonna happen to this country and what are we gonna do for resources and education. ha.