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Old 04-11-2011, 10:41 PM
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My truck wont start, I pulled the motor out and OH it, no electrical changes were performed, engine was running fine.

After several weeks chasing my tail, I found that I have a cold/weak spark, out of the coil but not spark to the plugs. I replaced the coil with a new MSD 8228 coil and still have the same problem.

1. From the coil, + DG/OR to ground the multimeter beeps continuity.
2. From the coil, - BK/GY to ground the multimeter beeps continuity.
3. Multimeter to +/- on coil reads 0v switch on/start.
4. Multimeter to + DG/OR on coil reads 12v switch on one sec. then 0v and 9v at start.
5. Multimeter to -Bk/GY on coil reads 12v switch on one sec.then 0v and 0v at start.

It seems to me that the + DG/OR wire is grounding out somewhere. I unplugged all the connections from the PCU and sensors, still multimeter beeps ground. I unplugged a grounding wire that goes to the A/C pump and the continuity beep stops. Im confused!
 
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Old 04-11-2011, 10:46 PM
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Has it rained heavy lately?
 
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Yes, but my truck has been covered. Why?
 
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O ok, well if your weather stripping is missing under your hood, water can leak into the bay and get onto the distributor and cap and what not, causing malfunctions.
 
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Dunno what to tell ya man, chasing a short, especially one that could be in several places--as in your case, is probably #3 on my things I don't want to happen list. Right after being shot in the dick and having it bitten off.

Chase the wire to origin, and figger out where your voltage starts to drop.
 
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Well it is not the coil, crank position sensor and pick up coil. My next step is to replace the PCM.
 
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Flash it maybe, Cheaper.
 
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Flash is $350. Salvage is $150.
 
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Not to mention that flashing it wouldn't fix your problem. If the PCM is what is causing this, it is due to an internal fault that a flash wouldn't fix.

That being said, when you swap PCM's, you have to get the new one flashed to your VIN anyway. Where did you come up with $350 for a flash? Got mine done for $70. Try calling a different dealership and getting a quote.
 
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I had my PCM flashed in mid 2006 by B&G Performance for $350.00 and they are still charging the same. I have checked all the wiring, connectors and sensors and I continue to have the same problem, no start and a cold(weak) spark. My assumption is the PCM is not functioning properly.

Im considering buying a PCM from the salvage for $125.00, if that solves the problem then I will send the PCM to get flash. Mad_Scientist, where did you get your PCM flashed for $70.00?
 


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