2nd Gen Ram Tech 1994-2001 Rams: This section is for TECHNICAL discussions only, that involve the 1994 through 2001 Rams. For any non-tech discussions, please direct your attention to the "General discussion/NON-tech" sub sections.

5.9L rough idle, running rich?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 04-12-2011, 11:50 AM
yz250rider's Avatar
yz250rider
yz250rider is offline
Registered User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default 5.9L rough idle, running rich?

hello everyone. i'm new here, and i have a 98 dodge ram 2500 with the 5.9L v8. recently it has been having a rough idol problem, and it tries to stall on me in the middle of intersections sometimes. if i shut it off then start it up again it runs fine for a little bit, then starts idoling rough again. i plugged in my code reader and i have been getting a bunch of different o2 sensor codes, usually po132 and po138 (bank1 sensor1 high voltage, bank1 sensor2 high voltage) and po135 (sensor 1 heater circut malfunction) so i replaced both o2 sensors but its doing the same thing. the codes don't always come up, just every once in a while. i removed the air cleaner and started it and it idols great without it, so i cleaned it (knn filter) and it's STILL running rough. for some reason it's running rich, and starts to suck in a lot more air which is when it starts idoling rough. my dad thinks it could be a vaccume leak or bad pcv valve, anyone have any imput?
thanks,
Will
 

Last edited by yz250rider; 04-12-2011 at 12:46 PM.
  #2  
Old 04-12-2011, 12:21 PM
HeyYou's Avatar
HeyYou
HeyYou is offline
Administrator
Dodge Forum Administrator
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Clayton MI
Posts: 80,819
Likes: 0
Received 3,189 Likes on 2,942 Posts
Default

Check your plenum.
 
  #3  
Old 04-12-2011, 12:45 PM
yz250rider's Avatar
yz250rider
yz250rider is offline
Registered User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

yea i did the plenum gasket when i replaced the engine. and correction, i meant to say pcv valve, not pcp
 
  #4  
Old 04-12-2011, 02:09 PM
HeyYou's Avatar
HeyYou
HeyYou is offline
Administrator
Dodge Forum Administrator
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Clayton MI
Posts: 80,819
Likes: 0
Received 3,189 Likes on 2,942 Posts
Default

Aftermarket PCV valves don't always have the correct flow rate. Get one from the dealer. Less than eight bucks.

Clean the throttle body. Disconnect the battery, remove TB, take off IAC valve on the back, and clean ALL the passages thoroughly. Reassemble, reconnect battery, fire it up, and see if it is happier.

And you need to figger out why you are getting the O2 codes, and fix it......
 
  #5  
Old 04-12-2011, 02:26 PM
yz250rider's Avatar
yz250rider
yz250rider is offline
Registered User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

the throttle body was cleaned when i replaced the engine also. i checked my pcv valve and it seems to be working fine. i must have a vaccume leak, it's definately running rich, which i think is why the o2 sensor codes are coming up. idk, im stumped. what is the best way to test for vaccume leaks? thanks for the imput heyyou
 
  #6  
Old 04-12-2011, 04:21 PM
Mad_Scientist's Avatar
Mad_Scientist
Mad_Scientist is offline
Captain
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: SE Tx
Posts: 632
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by yz250rider
the throttle body was cleaned when i replaced the engine also. i checked my pcv valve and it seems to be working fine. i must have a vaccume leak, it's definately running rich, which i think is why the o2 sensor codes are coming up. idk, im stumped. what is the best way to test for vaccume leaks? thanks for the imput heyyou
Hmmmm..... whats fuel pressure look like?

As to vacuum leaks, a key spot on these trucks is the cruise control motor--which is conveniently located under the battery tray.

Also check the spot where all the vac lines tie together on the pass side of the block, kind of behind the intake (exact directions, I know).

I'd think you'd be having the "wild vents" issue if a vac leak was to blame however.
 
  #7  
Old 04-12-2011, 04:28 PM
yz250rider's Avatar
yz250rider
yz250rider is offline
Registered User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

what exactly is the wild vents issue?
 
  #8  
Old 04-12-2011, 04:33 PM
Mad_Scientist's Avatar
Mad_Scientist
Mad_Scientist is offline
Captain
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: SE Tx
Posts: 632
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

When driving with the a/c or heater on, giving it gas switches blower output to the defrost, then back.... or some such. Never dealt with it personally, but that's the idea i get from other's descriptions of it.

Do a search for wild vents... there's a thread that comes up with many pages that has a lot of good info on chasing vac leaks. I believe sheriff420 is the op of the thread I'm speaking of.

EDIT: this is the thread I'm speaking of https://dodgeforum.com/forum/2nd-gen...ild-vents.html
 

Last edited by Mad_Scientist; 04-12-2011 at 04:36 PM.
  #9  
Old 04-12-2011, 04:59 PM
jasonw's Avatar
jasonw
jasonw is offline
Site Moderator
Dodge Forum Moderator
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sioux Falls, SD
Posts: 8,374
Likes: 0
Received 21 Likes on 11 Posts
Default

Are you still getting the O2 sensor codes?

If so, which code(s)? If its just the Sensor 2 code, you may have a bad/clogged catalytic converter. Sensor 2's sole purpose is to check that. Only reason it'd trigger a code is if the sensor itself has failed, or the converter has failed.

What brand/model of sensors did you use?
 
  #10  
Old 04-12-2011, 05:36 PM
yz250rider's Avatar
yz250rider
yz250rider is offline
Registered User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

i used bosch o2 sensors, and im getting codes po132 and po138, which is bank1 sensor1 high voltage and bank1 sensor2 high voltage, so my truck is running rich.. and ohh i'm not sure if the vent thing is happening to me, ill check. thanks!
 


Quick Reply: 5.9L rough idle, running rich?



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:52 AM.