Deal or No Deal?
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certain 'types' are drawn to certain jobs.. some are drawn to military lifestyle.. some enjoy it and make a career.. some are drawn to mechanics of some variety.. some are drawn to cooking, some to public service, some to librarians.. whatever.. the type that are drawn to selling things like cars alwys seem to fit the profile of "think they are a little smarter than you, and can pull one over on you"...
the same items on a vehicle they will depreciate when you're trading in are the same ones they will lend accolades to when you are purchasing.. they move fluidly between retail value, and wholesale- citing retail for the purchase, and wholesale for the trade.. they will use KBB/NADA when it benefits them, but fall back on 'market demand' when it doesn't..
they are well versed in getting your cash.. and that is their aim..
if you're buying used, slow your roll and determine what you're looking for precisely.. then keep your eyes open for the right one to come on the market.. It could take upwards of a year.. if you do this though, you will be much happier than going the other route and letting some slick salesman tell YOU what YOU want.. (and leaving you to think it was your idea to begin with)..
also, if at all possible, deal with a private sale.. You can talk to the previous owner and size him up.. get a look at how he maintains his 'other' vehicle (the one he's not selling).. see if he takes care of his property.. talk to him about the history of the rig.. look the rig over while asking questions, and see if everything you hear adds up with what you see.. HE IS MOST LIKELY NOT TRAINED AND/OR PRACTICED TO DIVERT YOUR ATTENTION TO SOMETHING ELSE (in his favor) WHILST YOUR WHEELIN' and DEALIN'..
and, about the brands- ALL vehicles have issues.. I'd rather deal with a blown plenum on a dodge than I would acidic paint on a chevy.. for one: you don't need specialized equipment and space to fix the plenum, and second: you'll feel more like a damn man with grease and oil up to your elbows than you would hiding behind a plastic sheet with a respirator on... your choice though..
and one parting shot: I own the dodge I have now because the v6 F150 I owned prior didn't have ***** enough to yank a travel trailer around.. it was a 2004 standard cab swb.. I bought it in 2003 for 14k, and sold it in 2006ish for 13k.. a buddy just bought one dang near identical this past month for 7k.. if you don't need brawn, you can find a good deal.. how much is that machismo worth to you?
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not to get all silly with this thread which has hardly nothing to do with this, but:
certain 'types' are drawn to certain jobs.. some are drawn to military lifestyle.. some enjoy it and make a career.. some are drawn to mechanics of some variety.. some are drawn to cooking, some to public service, some to librarians.. whatever.. the type that are drawn to selling things like cars alwys seem to fit the profile of "think they are a little smarter than you, and can pull one over on you"...
the same items on a vehicle they will depreciate when you're trading in are the same ones they will lend accolades to when you are purchasing.. they move fluidly between retail value, and wholesale- citing retail for the purchase, and wholesale for the trade.. they will use KBB/NADA when it benefits them, but fall back on 'market demand' when it doesn't..
they are well versed in getting your cash.. and that is their aim..
if you're buying used, slow your roll and determine what you're looking for precisely.. then keep your eyes open for the right one to come on the market.. It could take upwards of a year.. if you do this though, you will be much happier than going the other route and letting some slick salesman tell YOU what YOU want.. (and leaving you to think it was your idea to begin with)..
also, if at all possible, deal with a private sale.. You can talk to the previous owner and size him up.. get a look at how he maintains his 'other' vehicle (the one he's not selling).. see if he takes care of his property.. talk to him about the history of the rig.. look the rig over while asking questions, and see if everything you hear adds up with what you see.. HE IS MOST LIKELY NOT TRAINED AND/OR PRACTICED TO DIVERT YOUR ATTENTION TO SOMETHING ELSE (in his favor) WHILST YOUR WHEELIN' and DEALIN'..
and, about the brands- ALL vehicles have issues.. I'd rather deal with a blown plenum on a dodge than I would acidic paint on a chevy.. for one: you don't need specialized equipment and space to fix the plenum, and second: you'll feel more like a damn man with grease and oil up to your elbows than you would hiding behind a plastic sheet with a respirator on... your choice though..
and one parting shot: I own the dodge I have now because the v6 F150 I owned prior didn't have ***** enough to yank a travel trailer around.. it was a 2004 standard cab swb.. I bought it in 2003 for 14k, and sold it in 2006ish for 13k.. a buddy just bought one dang near identical this past month for 7k.. if you don't need brawn, you can find a good deal.. how much is that machismo worth to you?
certain 'types' are drawn to certain jobs.. some are drawn to military lifestyle.. some enjoy it and make a career.. some are drawn to mechanics of some variety.. some are drawn to cooking, some to public service, some to librarians.. whatever.. the type that are drawn to selling things like cars alwys seem to fit the profile of "think they are a little smarter than you, and can pull one over on you"...
the same items on a vehicle they will depreciate when you're trading in are the same ones they will lend accolades to when you are purchasing.. they move fluidly between retail value, and wholesale- citing retail for the purchase, and wholesale for the trade.. they will use KBB/NADA when it benefits them, but fall back on 'market demand' when it doesn't..
they are well versed in getting your cash.. and that is their aim..
if you're buying used, slow your roll and determine what you're looking for precisely.. then keep your eyes open for the right one to come on the market.. It could take upwards of a year.. if you do this though, you will be much happier than going the other route and letting some slick salesman tell YOU what YOU want.. (and leaving you to think it was your idea to begin with)..
also, if at all possible, deal with a private sale.. You can talk to the previous owner and size him up.. get a look at how he maintains his 'other' vehicle (the one he's not selling).. see if he takes care of his property.. talk to him about the history of the rig.. look the rig over while asking questions, and see if everything you hear adds up with what you see.. HE IS MOST LIKELY NOT TRAINED AND/OR PRACTICED TO DIVERT YOUR ATTENTION TO SOMETHING ELSE (in his favor) WHILST YOUR WHEELIN' and DEALIN'..
and, about the brands- ALL vehicles have issues.. I'd rather deal with a blown plenum on a dodge than I would acidic paint on a chevy.. for one: you don't need specialized equipment and space to fix the plenum, and second: you'll feel more like a damn man with grease and oil up to your elbows than you would hiding behind a plastic sheet with a respirator on... your choice though..
and one parting shot: I own the dodge I have now because the v6 F150 I owned prior didn't have ***** enough to yank a travel trailer around.. it was a 2004 standard cab swb.. I bought it in 2003 for 14k, and sold it in 2006ish for 13k.. a buddy just bought one dang near identical this past month for 7k.. if you don't need brawn, you can find a good deal.. how much is that machismo worth to you?
I'm not sure, but after having read that I've decided that you are a certifiable bad-***.
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