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Old Mar 28, 2012 | 05:50 PM
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So are all these HID's and projectors actually legal and/or DOT approved.

Nothing more annoying than having and idiot driving the opposite direction blinding me or my wife jeopardizing my safety.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2012 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Crackshot
So are all these HID's and projectors actually legal and/or DOT approved.

Nothing more annoying than having and idiot driving the opposite direction blinding me or my wife jeopardizing my safety.
There are no DOT approved (or legal) aftermarket HID lights...whether it be the whole housing s or just the ballast/bulb kits... mainly because its too overwhelming for the dot guys to regulate at this point...

If they are in the proper projector housings they are not blinding...(unless your curiosity gets the best of you and you stare directly into them...)
 

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Originally Posted by Wh1t3NuKle
The particular projectors from this post are no longer available. Looks like a different ad for it.

I found these versions and wonder if anyone is able to comment on them as a reputable choice. Price seems good... ? < $200, right gdstock?



http://www.ebay.com/itm/94-01-DODGE-...ht_5179wt_1396

http://www.ebay.com/itm/94-01-DODGE-...ht_3991wt_1396
those are what I've been running for three years now...just put 4300k HID lights in them last week.... I love them...

I will say they, like most of the aftermarket lights that come setup for different bulbs are wired wrong... you have to swap two wires around... the blue has to go to the purple and the orange to red and black to black.... otherwise they dont work right at all... (you'll know if they are still wired wrong because your high beam indicator stays on in low beam mode but it dim....
I used cheap $28 with shipping 4300k 35w HID setup from ebay.... so far its amazing...
 
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Old Mar 28, 2012 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Crackshot
So are all these HID's and projectors actually legal and/or DOT approved.

Nothing more annoying than having and idiot driving the opposite direction blinding me or my wife jeopardizing my safety.
It's what I've been researching to be sure myself given all the different configurations out there and their associated marketing. I'm still digging, but here's a site with some useful information to chew on. I'm not claiming anything on this.

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...nversions.html
 
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Old Mar 28, 2012 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Wh1t3NuKle
It's what I've been researching to be sure myself given all the different configurations out there and their associated marketing. I'm still digging, but here's a site with some useful information to chew on. I'm not claiming anything on this.

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...nversions.html
That article does a lot of assuming and uses a lot of conjecture... Its reeks of Bias...although it makes a lot of good point if much of what it was saying was so true the auto industry wouldnt be shifting to HID lights and Bixenon technology like it IS.....Try telling all the guys driving high end luxury cars their lights are crap technology and dont work well...
most of your aftermarket tune up parts you buy at the store say in small writing "for offroad use only"... because its so difficult to get DOT approved here... there is a lot of favoritism and shady dealings in the auto industry... always has been.. I'll leave it at that...
We are years behind other countries in audio and video technology for similar reasons...

Did I mention I'm very happy with my HID's...and if you've read any of my previous comments in other threads on HID's you'll see I'm an advocate of doing them right and not taking shortcuts with them...

I absolutly dispise the dopes who stick them in the halogen housings which give them all a bad rap... and the blue ones are an oxymoron... brighter lights that make it harder for the human eye to actually see in the dark... all the disadvantages of having brighter lights without the advantage of that light to actually be as useful to see and distinguish what your looking at as a halogen....
genius...
Why not just paint "LOOK AT ME I WANNA BE COOL TOO" in bright letter all over the vehicle...
 

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Old Mar 29, 2012 | 10:52 PM
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My situation for replacement lights is due to the oem housings scattering my brighter bulbs combined with a higher front end (which will increase over the next year with lift) and busted adjustment screws. I could put more effort into getting them to operate. I don't get flashed and mainly b/c they scatter too much.

I'm certainly a proponent of getting the lights aimed correctly for our large rigs. What has really increased my sensitivity lately is a change to graveyard shift and do driving in/out at night as well in snow/rain....has been quite frustrating. There are deer where I go b/c its a region of rocket engine testing. I don't want to hit a deer!! lol

Hence, I'm interested in the options of HIDs and certainly in the most legal way possible. There doesn't seem to be a single source to rest on in this arena. The most legal way (if done completely correctly) are Retrofits (using OEM housings modified to take HIDs, which require proper balast/wiring/fuses/etc.). By law, it is unlawful to modify/change oem housings or what's available from the oem of your vehicle. Retros (no experience here) seem to be more prone to problems given the mods. I'm not saying anyone is incompetent, its just some extra work and this is based purely on what I've researched so I'm sure YMMV type of thing.

Going Projectors seems the most logical option for HIDs given that they are designed for them. The only remaining factors are proper fitment/alignment of the housing followed by the proper wiring. The absolute most important part here though is the proper BULB such that it's as white as possible to meet or minimize rather, law enforcement attention. Why ppl still choose blue-ish or non-white is just asking for trouble, but w/e. Biggest advantage of this setup in my mind is much BETTER adjustment given my intended rig height and such.

The alternative is something like the following for OEM replacement:

https://dodgeforum.com/forum/2nd-gen...nd-review.html

I can't help but think I would kick myself later that I can't aim them down more given my eventual lift height of 6". If I'm offbase, then please do share.

I'm gonna go have my now. Thanks
 
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Old Mar 30, 2012 | 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Wh1t3NuKle

Going Projectors seems the most logical option for HIDs given that they are designed for them. The only remaining factors are proper fitment/alignment of the housing followed by the proper wiring. The absolute most important part here though is the proper BULB such that it's as white as possible to meet or minimize rather, law enforcement attention. Why ppl still choose blue-ish or non-white is just asking for trouble, but w/e.

I tend to disagree on two points here, Just in my opinion of course. The white bulbs, like mine, are 6000K and are quite different from the usual factory colour of 4300K which leans toward yellow.

The other thing is, the lights that I have now the projectors were not made for HIDs, they fit, and work well, but the actual housing and projector were still designed for halogens. But I will say that they work excellent and I have not had any problems in the month that I have had mine.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2012 | 08:39 AM
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I'm pretty sure most (maybe all) projectors are made for halogen bulbs, I got mine from k2 and they say that you can use hid's but the halogens had a much cleaner look to them.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2012 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Prototype
I tend to disagree on two points here, Just in my opinion of course. The white bulbs, like mine, are 6000K and are quite different from the usual factory color of 4300K which leans toward yellow.

The other thing is, the lights that I have now the projectors were not made for HIDs, they fit, and work well, but the actual housing and projector were still designed for halogens. But I will say that they work excellent and I have not had any problems in the month that I have had mine.
600k is blueish white... 4300k is white I have both in two different vehicles 3000k is yellowish... 5000k is also supposed to be OEM white also offered by different sellers.
Different manufacturers sell different color temp bulbs with different color temp labels on them... that was my earlier point...

and even though my projectors say "Not for hid" on them I found the housings are actually designed for them and have to cutout for the metal rod that goes to the end of the HID bulb.... I think its more for DOT approval since HID lights arent DOT approved period unless they came OEM on the vehicle.

projector lenses were developed for HID bulbs even though they DO come oem without them in certain vehicles like my camry..
 

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Old Mar 30, 2012 | 02:45 PM
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yeah...4300k is not yellow at all but a pure nice while light. 3100k is stock halogen with the yellow glare everyone despises
 
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