i had good luck with my last set and ordered another set for my new truck. I think they were better than stock but i also switched to hids...

 

I would think HID bulbs in those housings would likely be a real distraction and danger to other drivers on the road.... They lack the design and hardware over to keep the light focused on the road and out of others eyes... Improper setups give HID lights a bad rap... This is why none of the aftermarket HID setups are DOT approved or legal in the states...
I'm gonna stereotype here and say you can usually spot these setups because they usually have the less effective blue lights blinding you as they come towards you and a teenager behind the wheel. Which is funny since seniors are the ones that really could use the added light..(9000k or higher blue bulbs put out light thats less effective for the human eye to see at night and are really just used for "look at me I need attention" factor in most cases) 6500k or lower is what you want if you actually want an improvment in functionality... (faint blueish -stark white to yellowish hue.)
I put HID lights in my fathers f150 and they even have the correct housings and still get flashed by others who are annoyed simply because the truck is so high off the ground the light blinds them...Projectors are the best setup for HID's in a case like that. one of the bulbs melted the housing too recently (this is why aftermarket warn you they are not approved for HID bulbs..
Of course people said the ebay projectors I have sucked too... I guess its because they come wired for the sport type bulb harness and most dont know enough to swap the two wires around which dramatically improves the light output..
Just my opinion of course...

 

Wrong, Cheap HID light give HIDs a bad rap. A quality HID does not need a housing. They should display the correct pattern no matter what housing you put them in.

The mixed reviews I'm getting are enough for me to give these lights a try, first with the 9004 bulbs, then HID if I decide the 9004 isn't good enough. One piece of information nobody puts here is the amount of time they used these lights.

 

I dont know where you get your information (i'd really like to know here?) but an automotive bulb doesnt have a pattern. thats the housing reflector and deflectors job..headlight bulbs are just bulbs they have no reflector to focus the light into any beam.. some have light blocking coated tips to act as a deflector but that only helps bounce the light back into the housings reflector to focus and aim it. but housings that are made for HID lights either have these metal domes to do this job already or in the case of a projector dont need them.
All oem HID setups use approriate housing designed to be compatible for them.(most are projector style).. The only thing related to the bulb design and actual pattern is the HID bulbs with high and low beam where the bulb moves forward and back to change the angle the light actually reflects off the housing at... HID lights also generate more heat and that needs to be taken into consideration or you may melt the housing.
If you think you can use an HID bulb in any old housing like the OEM texture glass lense and get the proper pattern dispersment without blinding others with deflected stray light your very wrong! (unless the HID bulb is for some reason not any brighter than a stock halogen which defeats the purpose).
by the way my "ebay lights " specifically say they are not approved for HID use... I've seen some people have used them anyway with good luck others have had meltdowns.... I'm making an educated guess that this could have been because of different color temperature bulbs burning at different temps and type/ length of use and environment...and possibly minor variances in hardware specs

 

Wrong. I mentioned in my first post I had them in for 1 night. They are not worth it. But, its your money. If you want them, get them.

 

After i installed them i did my research. I know i did it backwards. I never had people flash highs at me and my buddies would see me on the road and not say anything so. I might of just been lucky and i think the fact i went with a 4300k light helped. This time i am going to do it the proper way got lights that are designed for hid not projectors

 

You misread my post, I didn't specify what quality or cheap meant, it's not worth argueing about.

I will tell you where I get my information even though none of it contradicts your last 3 paragraphs. Years of learning with the owner of Sache Rod Shop, building popup low profile HID conversions for fieros and just a general thurst for doing things the right way.

One of the reasons HIDs melt headlights as they get older is becasue they burn hotter as they get older, one fix is to install a small fan to vent the housing, this opens them up to the elements more but apperently these headlights already have that problem.

 

Thanks, I apreciate that.

 

Just put some Hella's on the front and be done with it.

 

I have these on my truck, with stock bulbs, and they are WAY better then stock. I've had them on for 3 or 4 months now, and i have no complaints. They do have an adjustment screw. They also look great with none of the transformers look that aftermarket projectors remind me of. I'd like to do HID's sometime but in the meantime i am happy with them.