Horrible Winter Gas Mileage
You could easily find out what's in there with a magnet. Steel is stock, fixed is aluminum. A magnet wont attract aluminum.
Chances are it wasn't fixed right with the aluminum plate and you now have a blown plenum gasket again. With your mileage I'd first verify compression to eliminate the possibility of cracked heads and/or worn rings and if it checks out then do the plenum fix and new timing chain. With those fixes it would likely run like new again if there is still good compression.
If he didn't mention the plate it's pretty safe to assume he didn't get it fixed right. Since most shops don't know about the permanent fix they put it back to factory spec using OEM equivalent parts, but just keep doing it over and over every time it blows.
You could easily find out what's in there with a magnet. Steel is stock, fixed is aluminum. A magnet wont attract aluminum.
Chances are it wasn't fixed right with the aluminum plate and you now have a blown plenum gasket again. With your mileage I'd first verify compression to eliminate the possibility of cracked heads and/or worn rings and if it checks out then do the plenum fix and new timing chain. With those fixes it would likely run like new again if there is still good compression.
You could easily find out what's in there with a magnet. Steel is stock, fixed is aluminum. A magnet wont attract aluminum.
Chances are it wasn't fixed right with the aluminum plate and you now have a blown plenum gasket again. With your mileage I'd first verify compression to eliminate the possibility of cracked heads and/or worn rings and if it checks out then do the plenum fix and new timing chain. With those fixes it would likely run like new again if there is still good compression.
Tons of other factors, but in the end, 6 mpgs is really low for our rams.
^ This along with, 1) Winter blend gas stinks compared to spring blends. 2) Your pulling in colder more dense air, means more gas will be used to compensate for the increase amount of oxygen. 3) (this one is just a though really) If he changed the plenum, did he make sure the cat wasnt clogged. If it wasnt clogged then, see if your plenum is blown again and check the cat now. 4) Your ram will idle higher during open loop to try and warm the ram faster.
Tons of other factors, but in the end, 6 mpgs is really low for our rams.
Tons of other factors, but in the end, 6 mpgs is really low for our rams.
O2 sensors would not really be the culprit because the engine stays in open loop longer due to it taking longer to reach operating temps. A LOT LONGER.
But they probably do need to be replaced. Like was mentioned, winter blend gas is horrible for gas mileage, and if you warm up your truck, you are wasting gas.
6mpg on a blown plenum truck in the winter (warming up before driving) is not that far off. I was at 8.9mpg with my truck when it was stock. But my commute to work was only about 1 mile last winter. Now my truck is right at 11 MPG in the city.
Also, if you travel over 65 MPH, our trucks get single digit gas mileage.
But they probably do need to be replaced. Like was mentioned, winter blend gas is horrible for gas mileage, and if you warm up your truck, you are wasting gas.
6mpg on a blown plenum truck in the winter (warming up before driving) is not that far off. I was at 8.9mpg with my truck when it was stock. But my commute to work was only about 1 mile last winter. Now my truck is right at 11 MPG in the city.
Also, if you travel over 65 MPH, our trucks get single digit gas mileage.
If he didn't mention the plate it's pretty safe to assume he didn't get it fixed right. Since most shops don't know about the permanent fix they put it back to factory spec using OEM equivalent parts, but just keep doing it over and over every time it blows.
You could easily find out what's in there with a magnet. Steel is stock, fixed is aluminum. A magnet wont attract aluminum.
Chances are it wasn't fixed right with the aluminum plate and you now have a blown plenum gasket again. With your mileage I'd first verify compression to eliminate the possibility of cracked heads and/or worn rings and if it checks out then do the plenum fix and new timing chain. With those fixes it would likely run like new again if there is still good compression.
You could easily find out what's in there with a magnet. Steel is stock, fixed is aluminum. A magnet wont attract aluminum.
Chances are it wasn't fixed right with the aluminum plate and you now have a blown plenum gasket again. With your mileage I'd first verify compression to eliminate the possibility of cracked heads and/or worn rings and if it checks out then do the plenum fix and new timing chain. With those fixes it would likely run like new again if there is still good compression.
Last edited by Augiedoggy; Dec 14, 2011 at 09:37 PM.
Right, I neglected to mention the proper length bolts. I should have said the plate kits, which all seem to include the new bolts.
I have the stock plate in mine and I assume the PO replaced the bolts and gasket because at 140k its holding up fine right now knock on wood.
On another note winter gas does suck and I read here that the 180 degree thermostate can cause the truck to never reach optimum operating temp and therefore the computer tells it to run rich...
I did the seafoam treatment on mine last year and noticed it ran much better afterwards.(smokes like a bitch thoughwhen doing it).. It can even burn some of the carbon out of the cat I've been told to help if its restricted..










