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Old May 9, 2012 | 10:14 PM
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Look dude Im 17. Im asking questions on this site so I can gain some knowledge on this stuff. If you don't want to be much help dont bother replying on my post. You can help by saying what kind of stuff I actually have to change. Im still in school and would like some power gain. Im not racing it or anything where I need a bunch of power. I just want to show off every now and then and go mudding. Thanks for the help from the other guys that have been helping me out. I don't want to be a headache, I just want to learn this stuff.
 
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Old May 9, 2012 | 10:21 PM
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If you want a turbo/supercharger on your engine, you need an engine that is either made for that application or a fair amount of aftermarket parts to make it able to handle/understand that extra boost/load.

I've seen instances where people put turbos on a non-turbo engine...needless to say, the cylinder heads were no longer attached to the block.

Do yourself a favor and don't put a turbo/supercharger on the 5.9L.

Save your money and buy an engine already set up for that. Usually you can find the whole kit (engine +turbo) for a fairly reasonable price.
 
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Old May 9, 2012 | 10:30 PM
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Thanks that was actually helpful. Would i have to change all the electrical though. Or should it drop in and hook up.
 
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Old May 9, 2012 | 10:35 PM
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Depends on which way you go. A standalone system would be easiest, and easier to program. However, install would be a bit more interesting..... (or, it might be plug and play... no experience there.....) Reprogramming your existing PCM would require a wideband O2 sensor, and the ability to log data, so whoever does your tuning, can see what's going on, and what needs to change.
 
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Old May 9, 2012 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DK-v1
If you want a turbo/supercharger on your engine, you need an engine that is either made for that application or a fair amount of aftermarket parts to make it able to handle/understand that extra boost/load.

I've seen instancees where people put turbos on a non-turbo engine...needless to say, the cylinder heads were no longer attached to the block.

Do yourself a favor and don't put a turbo/supercharger on the 5.9L.

Save your money and buy an engine already set up for that. Usually you can find the whole kit (engine +turbo) for a fairly reasonable price.
Actually, the stout bottom ends and and LACK of the factory pushing the envelop on things like compression and forgiving valve train geometry make the 5.2 and 5.9's good candidates for boost..

As stated: better head studs, better gaskets, 4bar MAP, injectors, and TUNE, and you can boost relatively easily, but never cheaply.. I've thought a lot about it myself..

Each psi sposedly adds 10% to hp.. if 200 at wheel, 1psi would add 20.. 2 would add 42.. 3-60ish.. ect..

You could boost to around 5 psi before you need to worry about OE bottom ends..
 
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Old May 9, 2012 | 10:38 PM
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Ill look into that and see whats out there and ask some more later thanks.
 
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Old May 9, 2012 | 10:48 PM
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You could always get a sct tuner to run it. But im not sure if a tailpipe turbo would be a good thing if your mudding.
 
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Old May 9, 2012 | 10:52 PM
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I would like to do the turbo on my motor and Ill worry about the head studs and stuff. When you say a 4 bar map sensor and a injectors that isn't bad to replace. That isnt a ton of money but when you say tune, where and how do I do that. Is that what the stand alone unit is for. I looked those up and I came to think these are made to overwrite your old data on the oem computer. Is that right or do I have it all wrong. and a turbo isn;t that expensive to buy a small one on ebay for like 150. I can plumb it all myself with a pipe bender. Id like to know on the stand alone unit.
 
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Old May 9, 2012 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Dodge360mag
Look dude Im 17. Im asking questions on this site so I can gain some knowledge on this stuff. If you don't want to be much help dont bother replying on my post. You can help by saying what kind of stuff I actually have to change. Im still in school and would like some power gain. Im not racing it or anything where I need a bunch of power. I just want to show off every now and then and go mudding. Thanks for the help from the other guys that have been helping me out. I don't want to be a headache, I just want to learn this stuff.
You're only about the 100th 17 year old I've seen that wants to do this (and never does).

Remember, I've been there, done that. The info you seek is out there if you just search for it.

If you want a turbo/supercharger on your engine, you need an engine that is either made for that application or a fair amount of aftermarket parts to make it able to handle/understand that extra boost/load.

I've seen instances where people put turbos on a non-turbo engine...needless to say, the cylinder heads were no longer attached to the block.

Do yourself a favor and don't put a turbo/supercharger on the 5.9L.
Funny, my engine didn't get that memo
 
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You need to get a turbo sized to your motor. Too small, you will burn it up, and cause yourself all sorts of headaches. Too big, and turbo lag will frustrate the hell out of you.

The standalone system complements the existing PCM, and can control various aspects of the motor. You still need the PCM to run the trans, so, it needs to know various things about the motor as well.

For a 'tuner', just using the existing PCM, a 2 bar map would be adequate to the task for up to 14 pounds of boost....... way more than you are going to be running. Then, you would need to send your engine specs, and such like, to whomever is going to be doing your custom tuning, and they would send you a 'base' tune. You would have to drive on that a bit, with some flavor of data logging software running, also recording what the wideband O2 sensor had to say, then, send that data to your tuner guy, so he can tweak your tune.

With the standalone system, you just need a laptop, and the right cable, and you can plug into the system, and tweak whatever the standalone system is controlling whenever ya feel like it. (mainly, timing, and fuel mixture.)

It gets complicated in a hurry when ya wanna go boost. I suggest you pick up some books, and do some reading on just how much fun it really can be.
 
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