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Old Jun 11, 2012 | 10:40 PM
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That's the thing about diesels though.... 150K miles is just getting broke in..... can also find reman 6bt for a hundred or two more..... and it's an easier install.

I can find the whole truck with around 100K for around 3K or so......

Suppose it just depends on what kind of budget you have for this kind of project.
It's this BS that gets me about the diesel guys. Yeah, I know the Cummins is a great engine. But like all other engines, IT MUST BE CARED for. If you beat the **** out of it, it will not last as long as it could. So 150k mi may be 150k easy miles, or hard miles. This will make or break your swap.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2012 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dodge dude94
It's this BS that gets me about the diesel guys. Yeah, I know the Cummins is a great engine. But like all other engines, IT MUST BE CARED for. If you beat the **** out of it, it will not last as long as it could. So 150k mi may be 150k easy miles, or hard miles. This will make or break your swap.
Diesels, by and large, will last significantly longer than a gas engine, even if both engines get all their correct maintenance. Diesels are heavier duty, thicker castings, and are manufactured to MUCH tighter tolerances than the gas engines. (at least, as far as american manufactured motors go.... try ordering bearings for your honda 4 cylinder...... )
 
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Old Jun 11, 2012 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by HeyYou
Diesels, by and large, will last significantly longer than a gas engine, even if both engines get all their correct maintenance. Diesels are heavier duty, thicker castings, and are manufactured to MUCH tighter tolerances than the gas engines. (at least, as far as american manufactured motors go.... try ordering bearings for your honda 4 cylinder...... )
I understand this.
However, the guy next door, f'd up his 01 Cummins he had for about 6 months.
What he did, I have no idea. But I do know that he screwed up something internal, likely a turbo.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2012 | 11:07 PM
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I understand this.
However, the guy next door, f'd up his 01 Cummins he had for about 6 months.
What he did, I have no idea. But I do know that he screwed up something internal, likely a turbo.
Yeah, you can do some silly stuff, and cost yourself some BIG money really easy. Like, trying to run your diesel on gasoline...... that'll trash the motor in short order.

Also, just like any other engine, if you DON'T take care of it, expect hefty repair bills..... (even heftier with the diesel.) Not to mention even MAINTENANCE is more expensive for the diesel......
 
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Old Jun 11, 2012 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by HeyYou
Yeah, you can do some silly stuff, and cost yourself some BIG money really easy. Like, trying to run your diesel on gasoline...... that'll trash the motor in short order.

Also, just like any other engine, if you DON'T take care of it, expect hefty repair bills..... (even heftier with the diesel.) Not to mention even MAINTENANCE is more expensive for the diesel......
Exactly.
Even though diesels are more stout, they are not as bullet-proof as everyone makes them out to be if they are not maintained.

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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 12:20 AM
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I really don't think my diesel costs that much more to maintain....
More oil, yet twice the changing intervals... And I go through a fuel filter once a year

Let the debate begin
 
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 12:32 AM
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What are the cons of not using liquid engine mounts for the 4BT. They seem to cause a lot of vibration, what are cons of having too much vibration other than rattling things loose?
 
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Jigabop
*cough*BS!*cough*

mine didn't stay stock for long... hehe

besides who wants a stinkin CR when you can have a twin turbo + supercharged P-pumped 24v 2nd gen that would blow the doors off a CR?!

see this post: https://dodgeforum.com/forum/2803297-post1521.html
I'm sure supercharging a twin turbo'd p-pumper would be fun. But I also enjoy the plug-n-play I have with EFI/Smarty to find the 500 hp mark without engine modifications... That is also a large plus for me
 
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by dodge dude94
There is also a 650 core charge, plus shipping, on top of the 3k, and its missing a ton of essentials needed to run in my truck as is...

I cant find any close by on craigslist, and don't know where to start looking as far as junkyards for bread trucks, etc.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Moochoff
There is also a 650 core charge, plus shipping, on top of the 3k, and its missing a ton of essentials needed to run in my truck as is...

I cant find any close by on craigslist, and don't know where to start looking as far as junkyards for bread trucks, etc.
You said they're hard to find. Not hard to find cheap.
 
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