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Old Oct 14, 2014 | 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by snowboundrmk
Get out the dial indicator if you want to be sure.
Sound advice. I'm gonna price them out, may pick one up.

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When you have the heads off check the valve stem clearance too.

I still say your problem was:

" looking back they did compress the valve quite a bit and pushed it open a little when tightening down the roller rockers. Big mistake and now going to cost more than just rockers."
Agree, the valve was pushed off the seat pretty good. Just don't understand why the exhaust valve would have the problem, it has less lift and smaller diameter, and only on one cylinder. Will try to get the heads pulled tomorrow.

I can youtube it but how do you measure valve stem clearance? I also had another guy tell me it could be a stuck valve guide.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2014 | 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 1997JollyGreenGiant
Did you install your Timing Chain Dot-To-Dot? On my Camshaft Sprocket, there are actually 2 dots. 1 puts the #6 cylinder at TDC (proper one to use), and the other dot put the #1 cylinder at TDC (Don't use that one, I made that mistake because it was the bigger dot). It sucked to have to re-do all that work.
#1 Cylinder at TDC, Both dots at 12 o'clock, dist rotor pointed at #1

Crank is at 0* using the rounded keyway slot, circle symbol at 12 o'clock


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Old Oct 14, 2014 | 06:42 AM
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Ok, I'd say that you have that lined up correctly!
 
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Old Oct 14, 2014 | 08:19 AM
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Degree the cam in too.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2014 | 08:42 AM
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Cam is 180 out to the crank your on the intake stroke with the crank exhaust stroke with the cam. The way you have it the 1 and 6 slug should be BDC not tDC. 1 AND 6 slugs are a mirror image (otto cycle). max lift on stock pistons and stock 1.92 valves is .544 at the valve. With 2.02 valve you lose p2v clearance significantly needs to be checked.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2014 | 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Adobedude
Degree the cam in too.
Definitely plan on it
 
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Old Oct 15, 2014 | 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by tweeker909
Cam is 180 out to the crank your on the intake stroke with the crank exhaust stroke with the cam. The way you have it the 1 and 6 slug should be BDC not tDC. 1 AND 6 slugs are a mirror image (otto cycle). max lift on stock pistons and stock 1.92 valves is .544 at the valve. With 2.02 valve you lose p2v clearance significantly needs to be checked.
I never rotated anything when it was apart. It was dots up before I removed it so it's dots up when it went back together.

Would it even run 180* out? Cause it ran normal for 4 minutes before the valve failure.

I will look again at what you are pointing out to be sure.

What is "1 and 6 slug"? Not familiar with that term
 
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Old Oct 15, 2014 | 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by tweeker909
max lift on stock pistons and stock 1.92 valves is .544 at the valve. With 2.02 valve you lose p2v clearance significantly needs to be checked.
^This and the valves pushed open from using non adjustable rockers when bolting them
 
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Old Oct 15, 2014 | 06:28 AM
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By #1 and #6 Slugs, he means Piston/Cylinder #1 and Piston/Cylinder #6
 

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Old Oct 15, 2014 | 03:05 PM
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Cam timing is correct, with rotor pointed at number 1.

To check valve guide clearance, need a dial indicator...... Remove the valve spring, drop the valve down half an inch or so, put dial indicator on valve stem, then wiggle the valve. See how much slop it has. Don't know what the spec is just off hand, but, I bet its in the service manual.
 
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