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Timing chain replacement, can't turn crankshaft

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Old 12-15-2014 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Adobedude
Cam timing and ignition timing are two different things, and our motors are external balanced...But it does look a tooth off.


Best to get a degree wheel and degree the cam in, then there aren't any mistakes, I'd never install a cam "dot to dot".
Why not? I have been doing it that way for decades, and it's never been a problem.
 
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Old 12-15-2014 | 07:08 PM
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Why not? I have been doing it that way for decades, and it's never been a problem.
Because it's not super advanced drag strip hot rod engine worthy.
 
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Old 12-15-2014 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Ham Bone
Because it's not super advanced drag strip hot rod engine worthy.

I Edited my post and removed the degree suggestion, it's only a chain replacement.

But it does look a link off.

Straight up at TDC # 1 works as long as NOTHING is moved...The real question is why won't it roll over.
 
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Old 12-15-2014 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Adobedude
I Edited my post and removed the degree suggestion, it's only a chain replacement.

But it does look a link off.

Straight up at TDC # 1 works as long as NOTHING is moved...The real question is why won't it roll over.
And one that REALLY needs an answer, before going much further. Gotta be something binding up somewhere.......
 
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Old 12-15-2014 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Adobedude
I Edited my post and removed the degree suggestion, it's only a chain replacement.

But it does look a link off.

Straight up at TDC # 1 works as long as NOTHING is moved...The real question is why won't it roll over.
Yep It is obviously a link off. Wonder if the previous guy was trying to set it to the "advanced timing" setting that some gear sets come with.

I don't know why it would stop turning over. If it was working fine before hand..... Not much there that could just randomly bind up for no reason.
 
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Old 12-15-2014 | 08:00 PM
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Thanks everyone for the great response. A lot of good feedback here, I really appreciate it. It reinforces what I thought I understood and explains some things I wasn't exactly clear on.

I was going to drop the oil pan anyway to replace the rear seals and the oil pump and screen, I'll see if that uncovers the reason for the stunk crank. I have a nagging suspicion something happened to the flywheel while I was trying to hold it steady to break the damper bolt. I'll get as good a look at that as I can.

I'll be sure to post when I find the culprit.
 
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Old 12-15-2014 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Ham Bone
Yep It is obviously a link off. Wonder if the previous guy was trying to set it to the "advanced timing" setting that some gear sets come with.

I don't know why it would stop turning over. If it was working fine before hand..... Not much there that could just randomly bind up for no reason.


First time I did a cam swap with the heads on I did everything wrong...Thank God I didn't button it up and try to start it.


Hell Mr. valve, I'm Mr. piston...

Just thinking here...I've only wrenched on my Dakota, my 98 Ram is box stock....But for the motor to roll over doesn't it have to be in neutral?
 
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Old 12-15-2014 | 09:59 PM
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In neutral if manual trans, auto trans doesn't matter.
 
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Old 12-15-2014 | 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by trpartin
Thanks everyone for the great response. A lot of good feedback here, I really appreciate it. It reinforces what I thought I understood and explains some things I wasn't exactly clear on.

I was going to drop the oil pan anyway to replace the rear seals and the oil pump and screen, I'll see if that uncovers the reason for the stunk crank. I have a nagging suspicion something happened to the flywheel while I was trying to hold it steady to break the damper bolt. I'll get as good a look at that as I can.

I'll be sure to post when I find the culprit.

Something tells me that you have just found the issue - I suspect that the flexplate may be bent enough to cause the crank assembly to bind up, if you tried to wedge it in place with a screwdriver or prybar while removing the crank bolt. Something to check before dropping the oil pan.. For what its worth, I remove crank bolts with an impact wrench - works every time..
 

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Old 12-16-2014 | 12:03 AM
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Isnt the engine in the truck? Attached to the trans?
 


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