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Old 01-08-2015, 10:10 PM
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The motor came out of a 96 it was a 360 with an auto trans
 
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Yes you need the harmonic balancer and a flywheel. Sorry for missing the part that you had a manual tranny.
As HeyYou said you'll also need the pilot bushing/bearing and flywheel. And then the PCM from the 360.
 
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Originally Posted by Wildman4x4nut
Yes you need the harmonic balancer and a flywheel. Sorry for missing the part that you had a manual tranny.
As HeyYou said you'll also need the pilot bushing/bearing and flywheel. And then the PCM from the 360.
And you said the PCM would need to be flashed as well?
 
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Old 01-08-2015, 10:46 PM
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Wut do I look for a flywheel for a 96 model dodge ram with a 360? An will my balancer off my 318 work on the 360? An do I get a pilot bearing for the 360 by itself? I mean since they never stuff a 360 in a 1500 with a 5speed right?
 
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Trans input shaft snouts are pretty much the same between the 3500, and 4500, so, just need a generic pilot bushing. (or, if they ask, get one for the 3500)

318 balancer will NOT work on a 360. 318 is internally balanced, 360 is external balance.

Get both balancer, and flywheel, for the year truck that you have. (not that I think there is any difference from one year to the next.....)

If the 360 PCM is expecting an auto trans, and not finding one, it is going to toss all manner of codes. If you can live with the check engine lite being constantly on, all well and good, otherwise, you will need to flash the PCM with a manual trans tune. So far as I know, the programming is the only difference between auto or manual PCM.
 
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Old 01-09-2015, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by jkeaton
And you said the PCM would need to be flashed as well?
Yes you can get your PCM flashed or there are 3 options to think about.

1) Run the stock 318 PCM, some have done this and while it works you're going to run lean.

2) Get the PCM from the donor truck or from another truck with a 5.9. Some people have posted that this can cause issues but not verified.

3) Flash your stock PCM for the 5.9. This is really the best overall option imho . If the PCM you have or the one from the engine have the death flash it is going to run like a turd. If you get the PCM flashed from Sean @ Hemifever it won't have the death flash, it will fun better than any stock Dodge tune PLUS you will get a total of 3 tunes out of the deal. Yes you have to buy a SCT Tuner but that really isn't that bad.


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Wut do I look for a flywheel for a 96 model dodge ram with a 360? An will my balancer off my 318 work on the 360? An do I get a pilot bearing for the 360 by itself? I mean since they never stuff a 360 in a 1500 with a 5speed right?

No you can not use the harmonic balancer from your 318. You can buy one online just look for them and make sure it comes with the needed weights.
You can get a pilot bearing because they did put NV4500 5 speed trannies in trucks behind the 360. Same thing with the flywheel. You should have no issues sourcing the parts.


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Ok so get a balancer for a 360 an flywheel for it an pilot Bushing an ill have my 318 computer an the 360 also
 
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Might wanna chat with Hemifevertuning, and see how much it would be to do you up a tuner for the 360 with the manual.
 
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Supposedly, Dodge never put the NV3500 behind the 360 because its threshold was 300 lb/ft of torque, which is the flywheel torque of the 318 (while the 360 put out 330 lb/ft at its peak) but I have to believe there's some room for a mere 10% more. People have been modding and running tunes and such with the NV3500 for years. Heck, the Dakotas had 318s and even 360s stuffed in their smaller drivetrains so I have to think the 360 with NV3500 should work.

The 360 got the NV4500 in the 2500s and that had to be overkill since the NV4500 also got the V10 and CTD.

Another thought is that the 318, while stout and durable (I have 178k on mine currently), is really wimpy. A little more torque shouldn't kill the trans unless you try towing heavy, which has to be the reason behind the use of the NV4500 in larger trucks.
 



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