Ok guys, I havnt really done much to the truck in awhile, but have plans for the not-so-distant future. So as a refresher my truck is a 2001 Dodge Ram 1500 Sport OFF-ROAD with the 5.9L. I try to keep it pretty clean and maintained as I can. Now that I have my new tires and rims installed, 35/11.5/17 Toyo Open Country A/T2 and Pro-Comp Alloy Locks, When I plow snow (I only do personal plowing and I have a 8' Western Ultra Mount ALL STEEL Pro Guard) I get tire rub in the front when I turn, and it drives me nuts. So naturally I would like the truck to go up just a couple more inches, nothing too radical or I wont be able to hook my plow up. With that being said I also need (badly) new shocks, steering stabilizer (ive replaced all the other front end components and they are tight) and plan to install a set of fender flares. With that all being said (Sorry I was long winded) I know there are some complications with lift kits and the OFF-ROAD trucks. With that being said, the more I stare at this kit (http://www.roughcountry.com/dodge-su...-kit-362h.html) the more I don't know where the issue would be. The front is just spring spacers, so I would think the lift would be the same 2.5", They claim the shocks will be plenty long, So thats not and issue, but I think the main issue is going to be in the rear as I do believe that the blocks in the rear of the OFF-ROAD trucks are taller than standard ones, So the regular lift blocks will probably be the same as what I have? So that being said I would have to order taller blocks for the rear if I am thinking right. That and I am not 100% sold on trucks being "Leveled" because the rake is there for functionality and I do tow from time to time. Anyhow sorry to ramble on but I am trying to get this all figured out so I can place an order and do my suspension Upgrade.

 

Well your truck comes stock with effectively a 2in lift. So any lift you buy you basically subtract that 2in from the lift total. Well, kinda....

So you get a 2.5in level for a stock truck. Would only give you a .5 in lift. Now the problem here is that since youre adding a spacer, that WOULD give you an extra 2.5 in lift on the front, and put you well over the generally excepted OK max of 3in on the rest of the stock suspension. Such as control arms, pitman arm, track bar... etc...

So if you bought say a 5in lift full kit with new springs and arms and yada yada yada yada, you would only gain an additional 2.5 inches of lift, but it would remove the stock springs with that 2in lift which puts your truck back to stock supsension, and then it replaces all the other stuff that is needed. So you would be good there.

I guess in this case it is more of adding it to the original lift which is what screws everything up.

 

I guess I kind of understood that part of it, but since the front is spacer lift, that is actually going to lift the front that amount, but the rear is a block, so essentially I would gain no lift in the rear, so at that point I think I would have to look for a taller block?

 

I do not know if the Off roads are actually lifted any in the rear at all. Not sure on that information.

 

Just went out and measured, the "stock" blocks that are in the rear of my truck now are 3 ¼" tall

 

Spacers will give you the advertised lift. Trouble is, I don't think the off-roads had different control arms than their regular counterparts, so, going up another two and a half inches is going to move the axle out of place enough, that it will become an issue. Not to mention steering geometry, and the track bar.....

I suspect that in order to clear your 35's, you are going to need more than just spacers and blocks....... Probably need to spring for a complete lift kit, something in the 5" range, to clear those 35's. Of course, for you, that will only give you a net 3" of lift, but, it'll clear the tires..... and have everything you need for 'stuff' to work right.

As I see it, the biggest advantage of the Off-Road package isn't the additional lift, it's the strengthened axles, 4.10 gears, and rear LSD...... On the 5" lift, sure, you spend a fair amount of money, for not much more lift than you already have, but, it's done the RIGHT WAY, and won't compromise steering/safety/anything else.

Look at it this way, you may spend a bit more on the lift, than you did on your tires, (and probably not much more...) but, you only have to do it once, and you are done. You WILL end up replacing your tires again.

 

That kit is insufficient for you COL.

As Ham Bone said, the ORE is 2" above a STOCK 4x4. This is purely in the front coil springs and the rear leaf springs. Extra leaf in the rear. Again, relative to a STOCK 4x4.

The ORE lift is basically a gas 2500 stock lift, thus you can get shocks according to that model.

If you didn't want to change lift, but wanted to mitigate the rubbing, then getting some aftermarket control arms is the path. I'm presuming your rub is at the fender well mostly.

Hell Bent Steel offers some basic ones. Getting adjustable ones are the ideal way such that you can set your caster as well.

I've been down this road a few years back and built my own arms. Let me know of anything else ORE specific as mine is one.

 

Ok guys, I try to be as educated as I can on a subject when I'm curious about it, so naturally I started doing research on OFF ROAD edition trucks. From what I have found the front coil springs are not the same as a 2500 gasser, nor are they even as long. What I found is that they are merely the same as a "normal" Ram but offer a much heavier spring rate so they have less "set in" or droop under the weight of the truck thus resulting in the estimated 1.5" of advertised lift. What I can not seem to find on the other hand is info on how the rear is lifted. Does it have an additional spring in the rear, or is it too simply a heavier spring rate, or did they use larger shackles or larger blocks? Also when I use the search feature I can find all kinds of people that installed the 2-2.5" leveling spacers in the front of there ORE Rams with no issues and little to no negative comments saying you "can't" or "shouldn't" do it, but when it comes to the lift like I posted the general consensus is "no don't do it". Is there something different about the lift vs the level spacers that change everything? Lastly I assume that in doing this it is going to mean that I should pick up an Adjustable Trac Bar, what brand do you like using?