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Old Apr 26, 2017 | 11:07 PM
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So I got my whole 95 manual harness labeled for I stall, and noticed that the 3 big connectors that separate you engine and tranny harness are not the same between my 94 ram and my 95 donor. The top two light grey and dark grey are, but not the bottom black one. I looked into the service manual S for both 94 and 95 trying to see what I gotta do to switch that bottom black connector over to the one like the 94. I was looking at pinoita on both the 94 and 95 and I was dumbfounded, or I'm just stupid, as to why there appears to be so many differences! It seems as if all the wires for the connectors are jumbled around different in the 95 harness than the 94. Not only that, there is one less wire on the top connector for the 94 than 95, and one more on the bottom on the 95 than 94. I just need help getting this harness to where I can use it without changing my 94 interior harness.
What I've done is printed recorded each color wire for each connector for the 94 and 95, as well as print out the pinouts for them both. I also wanna find out where the function for each wire is for the 95 manual. Not sure why it's not like the 94.
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Where do those connectors plug in at? On the harness I took off the 95 motor in the barn, there was only one PCM connector, with a buncha pins.....
 
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It the three connectors that separate the PDC/fuse box harness, and engine and tranny harness. To the right of the brake booster, on the firewall, drivers side.

On my 94, all threeconnecotes are the same style, like the top two connectors, but on the 95, the bottom connector is different. I need to swap my 94 connector on the bottom black one, but I have to figure out what wires I need to move.
 
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Are you going to have to re-pin the connector? Or did those change as well?
 
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That's what I'm no that's sure about. That bottom black connector in the last picture I posted is different. That's the 95 harness. On the 94 they all are the same.

I'm trying to find the function and pin outs of the 95 connectors, but all I can find is the pinouts. No function.

I'm not sure if I can go off of the 94 for the function or what?
I have the circuit numbers on both manuals tho, so would I be able to match what wires go together with what by those?

The number and color of the wires in each connector don't seem to match up with the other. Thats what led me on to this thinking. I'm not sure it's just a plug and play swap from 94 and 95, one being that bottom the connector is different, and two, being that all the colors and circuits not matching with the corresponding pins in the connector correctly.

Look at the pictures, if you can read em, little blurry, and the ones that show functions are the 94 and the ones that don't show function are the 95. Tell me if I'm just going crazy but all the wires are completely reagganged on the 95 compared to the 94.


I'm thinking I'm going to have to completely disassemble all three connectors and pin both of them back in according to circuit numbers. Dodge wouldn't have been stupid to the point where they changed circuit numbers.
 
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Could you grab the PDC, and Junction Block, from the 95 truck?
 
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Is that junction block the big thing under the dash? Would the wiring and pinouts of that huge connector be the same?

What is the number of that connector?
 

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On that, I don't know...... It would be interesting to check part numbers though, and see if they change from 94 to 95......
 
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I'll check up on those numbers, but I'd really like to not have to touch that part of the harmesa, as it is a pain to get in and out. It goes down to the axles and the headlights, fuel pump and still like that, if I'm correct?

I really wanna know how hard it is to repin those connectors. Do you think it would be hard? I'd assume the function and circuit number would not change from year to year, just the colors and locations. So if we can dig up any info at all on if those circuit numbers with functions are the same for year to year that would be the first step. Do you think the dealer would be of any help?

Any chance you could find a 94 harness, to make your life easier? Or, just modify the existing harness to play nice with the manual trans?
 

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If you have wiring diagrams for both years, I think that's as good as it's going to get. The connector pin-outs should tell you everything you need to know to re-pin them..... I do believe there is a neat little tool to release the wires from the connector.... And, it isn't really difficult, just tedious.
 
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