got some questions
#11
02-20-2018, 10:37 PM
actually there might be a simpler way to go about this. 46rh has an available standalone controller https://www.hgmelectronics.com/produ...s/csm-chrysler . my understanding is, with the exception of the valvebody/electronics, 46rh/re are identical inside. could you not simply swap the valvebody and governor to change the re to rh?
#12
02-20-2018, 10:46 PM
the tranny and stock gauge cluster are really all i'm trying to save. i'd go with a 46rh since there's a standalone controller for it, but the one i have now works great.
has anyone tried to make a standalone controller for the re? is there some voodoo reason it don't have aftermarket support there?
i know some engineers that are retired looking for projects. they used to design HP printers for the last 30+ years. not sure if i could convince them to try it, they don't seem to have much interest in working on cars. would there be much interest and what would be the price point on something like that? quick look at 4l80 controllers is between $450 for microsquirt and $1300 for the gm performance. where would the shut up and take my money price land? no idea if they will even be interested, but i like to have as much info as possible... i'm the favorite son in law to one of them, but i still get the idiot look from time to time.
has anyone tried to make a standalone controller for the re? is there some voodoo reason it don't have aftermarket support there?
i know some engineers that are retired looking for projects. they used to design HP printers for the last 30+ years. not sure if i could convince them to try it, they don't seem to have much interest in working on cars. would there be much interest and what would be the price point on something like that? quick look at 4l80 controllers is between $450 for microsquirt and $1300 for the gm performance. where would the shut up and take my money price land? no idea if they will even be interested, but i like to have as much info as possible... i'm the favorite son in law to one of them, but i still get the idiot look from time to time.
actually there might be a simpler way to go about this. 46rh has an available standalone controller https://www.hgmelectronics.com/produ...s/csm-chrysler . my understanding is, with the exception of the valvebody/electronics, 46rh/re are identical inside. could you not simply swap the valvebody and governor to change the re to rh?
#13
02-20-2018, 11:21 PM
well. did some more digging. looks like there may have been more options back when these things were new. that info is lost to photobucket error messages and dead links.
so at this point it's go full stoneage non od fully custom with new gauges and lose any perks to a modern vehicle. buy a built 46rh with standalone and deal with whatever headaches come messing with the engine. or shut up and stay in the walled garden of impending obsolescence.
welp... think i'll keep this thing till the wife finishes college and we get debt paid off, then i'm going shopping for a mid 2000 chevy where $1200 buys you full control over your vehicle.
so at this point it's go full stoneage non od fully custom with new gauges and lose any perks to a modern vehicle. buy a built 46rh with standalone and deal with whatever headaches come messing with the engine. or shut up and stay in the walled garden of impending obsolescence.
welp... think i'll keep this thing till the wife finishes college and we get debt paid off, then i'm going shopping for a mid 2000 chevy where $1200 buys you full control over your vehicle.
#14
02-20-2018, 11:32 PM
Factory gauges will not work at all.
They are completely different. Your tranny (RE) is completely electronic the RH tranny is hydraulic except overdrive and TCC lockup. The electronics is different the plugs (including the main connector) are different you would have to take the valve body, all electronics, and the wiring harness out and then swap in RH everything and I don't even know if they harness will got into your trans as you have a circle 8pin connector and the RH has a 4pin (no clue what shape) connector
They are completely different. Your tranny (RE) is completely electronic the RH tranny is hydraulic except overdrive and TCC lockup. The electronics is different the plugs (including the main connector) are different you would have to take the valve body, all electronics, and the wiring harness out and then swap in RH everything and I don't even know if they harness will got into your trans as you have a circle 8pin connector and the RH has a 4pin (no clue what shape) connector
as for the transmission, the wiring didn't scare me. it's just a plug that needed to travel from the inside to the outside. it's just pushes through the case. if the new plug is too small you can use epoxy to change the hole size smaller, if the hole is too small, drill a bigger hole.
ultimately what i've learned is this is a poorly supported platform and doom emanates from every angle of attack. change the alternator wiring size and angry pixies will destroy your tires. so i'm just gonna keep her going down the road for a few years and trade for a popular application that is well supported.
#15
02-21-2018, 01:55 AM
it's cool. while i don't understand how a simple analog signal from temp/pressure sensor to the dash would be killed by messing with the engine in any way, i don't need to. knowing how sensors work it completely boggles my mind, but that's the next guys problem.
as for the transmission, the wiring didn't scare me. it's just a plug that needed to travel from the inside to the outside. it's just pushes through the case. if the new plug is too small you can use epoxy to change the hole size smaller, if the hole is too small, drill a bigger hole.
ultimately what i've learned is this is a poorly supported platform and doom emanates from every angle of attack. change the alternator wiring size and angry pixies will destroy your tires. so i'm just gonna keep her going down the road for a few years and trade for a popular application that is well supported.
as for the transmission, the wiring didn't scare me. it's just a plug that needed to travel from the inside to the outside. it's just pushes through the case. if the new plug is too small you can use epoxy to change the hole size smaller, if the hole is too small, drill a bigger hole.
ultimately what i've learned is this is a poorly supported platform and doom emanates from every angle of attack. change the alternator wiring size and angry pixies will destroy your tires. so i'm just gonna keep her going down the road for a few years and trade for a popular application that is well supported.
#16
02-21-2018, 08:21 AM
You can't put a mechanical governor, into a 46RE case. There is no provision for it. The case is different. (though, I do believe the mechanical governor is in the O/D housing....... but, I seriously doubt it would be that easy.)
For around 500 bucks or so, you can buy a software package that will allow you to read, edit, and re-upload tunes to the stock PCM. The vendor is even a sponsor on the site. (HP tuners)
For around 500 bucks or so, you can buy a software package that will allow you to read, edit, and re-upload tunes to the stock PCM. The vendor is even a sponsor on the site. (HP tuners)
#17
02-21-2018, 10:42 AM
#18
02-22-2018, 08:03 PM
Hemifever or flyin' ryan off custom tunes as well. I think flyn' ryan wants to actually lay hands on the truck to do it though.... (read that: Expensive)
#19
02-22-2018, 08:12 PM
i don't blame any tuner for wanting to have the actual vehicle in front of them. i would. at least then you get a chance to look things over and see the workmanship so you know if it's you or the builder to blame when something dont work. is it well done or the ziptie special from roadkill lol.
i'm going to give this guy a chance, he has one hell of a following on facebook and all you can eat tunes. if i don't think things are going well i'll give hemi a call... if i drop 20k on a billet stroked everything monster and have a few thou left over i'll fly ryan out. shortly after i win the lotto.
i'm going to give this guy a chance, he has one hell of a following on facebook and all you can eat tunes. if i don't think things are going well i'll give hemi a call... if i drop 20k on a billet stroked everything monster and have a few thou left over i'll fly ryan out. shortly after i win the lotto.
#20
02-22-2018, 08:44 PM
i don't blame any tuner for wanting to have the actual vehicle in front of them. i would. at least then you get a chance to look things over and see the workmanship so you know if it's you or the builder to blame when something dont work. is it well done or the ziptie special from roadkill lol.
i'm going to give this guy a chance, he has one hell of a following on facebook and all you can eat tunes. if i don't think things are going well i'll give hemi a call... if i drop 20k on a billet stroked everything monster and have a few thou left over i'll fly ryan out. shortly after i win the lotto.
i'm going to give this guy a chance, he has one hell of a following on facebook and all you can eat tunes. if i don't think things are going well i'll give hemi a call... if i drop 20k on a billet stroked everything monster and have a few thou left over i'll fly ryan out. shortly after i win the lotto.
