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99 ram 1500 360 5.9 will not start now

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Old May 2, 2018 | 08:14 AM
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So I need to take it to a dealer or a shop it sounds like?
 
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Old May 2, 2018 | 08:20 AM
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Timing is set by the ECM n can't be "mechanically" altered. I still say use the Sherlock Holmes principle, a crack troubleshooter in his own right, n eliminate the impossible first. If your crank to cam timing is good and you're sure that the dist cap to spark plug wiring is set up correctly and you're 90 degrees off according to your rotor position, then try moving all the wires 90 degrees on the dist cap until they line up with the rotor whilst the #1 cylinder is at TDC on the compression stroke if you don't wanna (n I don't blame you a bit) move the distributor assy. But that's making the presumption that everything else is in it's proper position and timed correctly.
 
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Old May 2, 2018 | 08:21 AM
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So I need to take it to a dealer or a shop it sounds like?
I'm confused, why do you need timing reset? If the distributor isn't pointing in the correct direction, that's a mechanical issue, not programming.
 
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Old May 2, 2018 | 10:43 AM
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HeyYou, I think it's more likely that the OP mistakenly reported his rotor at 90 degrees out. That is a highly unlikely scenario. However, if the rotor is 90 degrees out of phase with his crankshaft position, it IS a timing issue and a mechanical issue. It's a mechanical timing issue. But you are correct...you won't likely be able to correct 90 degrees of advance/retard in software. OP, I'd take a SERIOUS, patient look at your firing order, and where you've actually plugged which plug wire, on the distributor.
 
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Old May 3, 2018 | 07:52 AM
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So I went back to confirm where the rotar is at tdc. Here’s a pic, I was wrong, it looks like it’s right on cyl #1 to me. I checked my firing order and adjusted my plugs on cap accordingly. It tries to fire but won’t get to idle and stay, just bogs out and dies. I have 45 - 50 psi at fuel rail, all injectors are good. Everything is new on spark side and have checked to make sure I’m getting good spark all the way around. To me it seems like a fuel issue. If I put a little gas in the intake it seems like it gives it a little more life but not enough to stay running. I’ve replaced both cam and crankshaft sensors as well, oh and the pcm is new. At this point I’m kind of at a loss completely

 
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Old May 3, 2018 | 08:02 AM
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I've forgotten, have you replaced the crank sensor?
 
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Old May 3, 2018 | 08:19 AM
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If you have, do you have or can you get your hands on a nice scanner with the capability of graphing individual/selected engine operations? What you're looking for is crank and cam sensor return to the ECM. When you turn your key to start your marvel of technology, you tell the ECM...I wanna go...the ECM gives it's marching orders to the ASD circuit. The ASD, in turn, turns on the voltage to things like , fuel pump n spark plug coil. If you've got these things and the crank and cam sensors giving the ECM their info, AND the proper mechanical trappings (crank/cam/distributor timing, compression, fuel n air is able to come in n go out of each cylinder without overwhelming restrictions) you should have a running engine.
 
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Old May 3, 2018 | 08:42 AM
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I have to wonder if something dropped down the Throttle Body while the engine was being worked on...a long shot, but as has been already stated, if it's getting fuel, air, spark, compression, and it's timed correctly, it should start right up (assuming the sensors aren't at fault.) The fact that the engine tries to start at all has me doubting a Crankshaft Position Sensor issue. If it were me, I'd have reached for the scanner long ago in this process. Oh, WardallJ, did you actually CHANGE the spark plug wires? If not, try cranking it over at night (in the dark) while someone looks under the hood. You're looking for arcs coming from the spark plug wires, along their length. Once again, a long shot, but it's a 20 second test.
 
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Old May 3, 2018 | 11:54 PM
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Is this the firing order you are using? I still think you might have bad gas.
 
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Old May 4, 2018 | 11:20 AM
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That is the firing order I’ve been going off of yes, and I’ve pulled the fuel rail and all injectors, cleaned them all and the rail. And I filled the truck with 91 pump gas and added a fuel system cleaner to the gas
 
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