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Old Jun 13, 2019 | 12:51 PM
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It actually sounds to me like maybe, just maybe, you are causing these issues. Are you leaving a little gas on when pulling the stick down from 1st? This will feel like it's sticking because there is still power mesh happening in the gears (I have felt this on occasion).

My advice is to take it to a shop and get their opinion on the syncro meshing. Bad syncros should not be tight but rather cause it to pop out of gear or grind going in. Have them check the oil for unusual wear. I just can't help anymore without being there.



I know it’s hard to judge when you’re not here but it’s not me causing these issues. When I said it sticks in gear I should clarify that it is at a dead stop, and no gas involved, but I know what you mean when it sticks like that. And for synchros that’s good to know, based on that mine should be fine. Again I understand not being able to tell much without feeling it but I appreciate all the advice.

I guess the only thing left that it could be is a sticky throwout bearing like somebody mentioned a while ago. Maybe I’ll just live with it until I need a clutch and replace all that stuff then.




 
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Old Jun 13, 2019 | 04:28 PM
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So it seems to hang up in 1st? Then yeah, probably a clutch issue. Should be able to push in the pedal and drop it in every gear easily when idling. Do you happen to be in the Seattle area? Everett? Or is that your name?
 
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Old Jun 13, 2019 | 08:04 PM
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So it seems to hang up in 1st? Then yeah, probably a clutch issue. Should be able to push in the pedal and drop it in every gear easily when idling. Do you happen to be in the Seattle area? Everett? Or is that your name?
About 5 hours from Seattle, and yeah that’s my name not the location
 
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Old Jun 14, 2019 | 01:38 AM
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East? I'll be heading to CO next week and could stop in off I-90.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2019 | 02:19 AM
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I appreciate the thought but it would be quite the detour off I-90, I wouldn't make you do that lol. Not to mention I'm not positive on my availability next week. Maybe if the issue persists I'll make a quick video so you guys can get a better idea of what I mean
 
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Old Jun 14, 2019 | 06:27 AM
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Straight drives get finicky with higher mileage as the gears and forks wear. The gears won't mesh like they did 100,000 miles ago. Trouble finding first when stopped is normal, you have to ride the clutch while slipping it in. My 05 does it with only 80,000 miles. (Nv4500). I've learned allot of tricks driving non synchronized trucks. With slop in the gears, shift forks wearing, bushings wearing it's gonna get a bit finicky. You could change the oil it might help. Unless it's got unusual noise, or kicks out of gear it's just normal wear and tear. You could get a rebuild kit and replace the worn parts. Resting your hand on the shifter causes extra wear on the shift forks. My truck I start off in 2nd, first is granny for towing heavy loads. It doesn't always want to go in every time. I ride the clutch a little and it goes no problem. Try driving one with 300,000+ plus miles lol, the shifter slop goes from seat to seat, you swear it's not in gear but it is lol. If it shudders while taking off it's about time for a clutch, a new clutch will help if you'rs is really worn, it might be dragging just enough to make it hard to shift, but it would be in every gear all the time, you'll hear and feel it grind.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2019 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by rebeltaz83
If it shudders while taking off it's about time for a clutch, a new clutch will help if you'rs is really worn, it might be dragging just enough to make it hard to shift, but it would be in every gear all the time, you'll hear and feel it grind.
It will shudder only if I'm below say 1400 RPM while taking off, or if I release the clutch too fast, but I assumed that was just bogging because of too low RPM, is that true? And it shifts smooth while moving, only grinds if I'm an idiot.

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Straight drives get finicky with higher mileage as the gears and forks wear. The gears won't mesh like they did 100,000 miles ago. Trouble finding first when stopped is normal, you have to ride the clutch while slipping it in. My 05 does it with only 80,000 miles. (Nv4500). I've learned allot of tricks driving non synchronized trucks. With slop in the gears, shift forks wearing, bushings wearing it's gonna get a bit finicky. You could change the oil it might help. Unless it's got unusual noise, or kicks out of gear it's just normal wear and tear. You could get a rebuild kit and replace the worn parts. Resting your hand on the shifter causes extra wear on the shift forks. My truck I start off in 2nd, first is granny for towing heavy loads. It doesn't always want to go in every time. I ride the clutch a little and it goes no problem. Try driving one with 300,000+ plus miles lol, the shifter slop goes from seat to seat, you swear it's not in gear but it is lol. If it shudders while taking off it's about time for a clutch, a new clutch will help if you'rs is really worn, it might be dragging just enough to make it hard to shift, but it would be in every gear all the time, you'll hear and feel it grind.
Mine has never popped out of gear, and doesn't make much noise, only in 1, 2, and reverse which I've heard is normal, mostly on decel. I never rest my hand on the shifter, but who knows if the previous owners did. Just now I went and drove the truck again since I cleaned the slave, and I'd say its back at square 1. I mentioned it had improved slightly after cleaning the rod but that must've just been me getting excited. I tried riding the clutch to pop it into either 1st or 2nd, because it locked me out of both almost every time I stopped. Here's how I am trying to do it: Vehicle stopped completely, in neutral, clutch in, put pressure on the stick towards whichever gear, slowly let out clutch, I can feel a slight vibration in the stick as I let the clutch out, and it won't go in gear. I tried clutching in again and retrying, putting pressure and then clutch in and release, etc. If it doesn't go into 2nd, then I have to go through all the gears like so: 5-R-3-4-2-1 and even then it doesn't always work. 3,4, and 5 will go in every time but there's a slight hitch going in. Again all of this is at a dead stop, it shifts just fine while moving.

I live in a somewhat rural area so I can sort of get by with this issue around town, but the whole reason I have the truck is for the apprenticeship I'm starting soon. I'll be driving anywhere in Washington, Oregon, Idaho, or Montana so realistically I will need to fix it. I guess at this point these are my options, in order from easiest/least expensive to most, that I'll have to try unless you guys have any other ideas, but I don't really know what else it could be after doing all of these.

- Trans oil change
- Clutch and throwout bearing replacement
- Rebuild kit

I think tomorrow I will try and check the fluid level. Does the trans need to be up to temp to have an accurate reading?

Sorry for the long post, just trying to get all the details down on paper so I can get this figured out. Thanks guys
 

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Old Jun 15, 2019 | 09:40 PM
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The clutch isn't releasing all the way, or the input shaft is binding in something that is turning.

If the engine ISN'T running, does it go into all gears fine? If so, then, time to drop the trans, and see what you find.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2019 | 09:47 PM
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When it's not running it goes into all gears like butter. I guess if I drop the trans right now there's not much I can do without having new parts, suppose I'll go ahead and order a clutch and bearing for it tonight.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2019 | 09:54 PM
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Clutch, pressure plate, throw out bearing, and whatever your truck uses for a pilot bushing. (in the end of the crankshaft, that the trans input shaft sticks into, to brace it.
 
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