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Old Dec 1, 2019 | 08:36 AM
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It looked terrible for many years with a lot of primer showing. I had estimates ranging from $4000-$7000 for light body work and a repaint. I could not justify that much money on a truck that someone had recently offered me $3000 for (he wanted to use it as a work truck!). When they eventually begin to appreciate, then it could easily be brought back to original condition.

I purchased it at a dealership south of San Antonio at closing time on December 31, 1999 and have no intention to ever sell it as I believe the 2nd generation is the best modern pickup body style ever produced.

As for the decal, I have owned a '72 RR for forty years (which has been parked for 33 and needs a complete restoration) along with a '69 hardtop and a convertible back in the eighties. Thought it might be fun to add the decals.
i am a certified autobody/ painter with over 30 years experience.
the biggest $$ of a good paint job really isn't the paint. it's the labor to make the paint look good and last.
the dent looks like it hit something instead of deformed by itself.

i myself wouldn't worry about the color change on your truck. yes a indy truck is worth a little more than a regular truck. but in my opinion it will never be worth 2 times worth over a regular truck in good condition. do what you want with it, drive it and ignore the critics.

i owned a 72 Road Runner for over 20 years. sold it a few years ago. bought a 08 bullitt mustang,. modified the hell out of it. drive it hard and put it away wet without worrying about it. i actually have less $$$ in the mustang after modifying it than the hemi and built trans to handle the hemi cost me. and the mustang is faster, out handles and out stops the roadrunner. it can and has smoked a hellcat on several occasions.

the Road Runner was a factory air grabber car with hood and deck lid stripes. a rather rare car. i removed the original numbers matching engine and replaced it with a 600 ci hemi. i constantly heard from the critics on how i wrecked a rare car by replacing the factory 400 with a hemi.
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Old Dec 1, 2019 | 08:54 AM
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Old Dec 1, 2019 | 09:41 AM
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i removed the original numbers matching engine and replaced it with a 600 ci hemi. i constantly heard from the critics on how i wrecked a rare car by replacing the factory 400 with a hemi.
As long as you keep the original motor i really don't see any harm done. There where approximately 1500 cars with 400/autos produced in 72. Rarest being a RR/GTX with the 440 6 pack motor. If you had a car like this and swapped a motor then that's another story.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2019 | 10:59 AM
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Nice color! It looks great! I was not familiar with those stripes. In the early eighties, I purchased a '71 for parts that had an air grabber hood. The engine had caught fire and the scoop was gone. Thought I would someday use it on my RR but eventually sold it.
I believe that I have seen one "new" Bullitt at a show. I like the green. Green is underrepresented in the car world. I recently sold my jade green '77 BMW 630csi.
Purchased my tawny gold metallic RR in '79 for $1200 when I was 16. The 340 blew a rod on my 17th birthday while doing 95. Swapped in a 360 then a 400 with 440 Super Commando top end. Lower quarter panels are rusted and someone hit and ran above rear wheel while parked outside my girlfriends house in Omaha the week before we moved to LA in '87. I parked it in my parents barn then drove it 20 miles to a friends barn in '98. They began to appreciate in the early '90's. I am currently in Colorado and have no where to park it nor the funds to begin a restoration. Considering it is far from stock and not many people appear to be interested in them, I was thinking of modifying it someday. I have seen a couple of '71's at shows over the years but no '72.




 
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Old Dec 1, 2019 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Moparite
As long as you keep the original motor i really don't see any harm done. There where approximately 1500 cars with 400/autos produced in 72. Rarest being a RR/GTX with the 440 6 pack motor. If you had a car like this and swapped a motor then that's another story.
yes i kept the original matching #'s motor and trans. when i sold it they were included with the sale. it also had the fender tags and build sheet. it had a extremely rare the NAD Paint fender tag also. to the best of my knowledge the car is now in Europe somewhere.
the person who bought the car from me bought it for the hemi drive train. he rebuilt the worn out 400 engine and trans then sold it to someone in Europe. a broker contacted me a month or so after the sale for info about the car and told me this.

the car was pretty rare. to the best of my knowledge they only made 500 or so cars with the V21 V25 stripes, out of the total 7,000 72 RR/GTX made. the stripe was only available on 72 RR/GTX cars with the N96 air grabber hood.
the big options car also came with were HD hemi suspension w ft & R sway bars, factory hood pins, ft & r bumper guards, bucket seats with center console and the extremely rare 15" rally wheels, trim rings with RWL tires. to the best of my knowledge they made less than 50 72 RR/GTX with this option. most people ordered the cheap 14" wheels and installed mag wheels when they got home.

i also modified it with custom 2 tome blue/ black interior, drivers side 6 way seat and i custom made a passenger side 6 way seat out of a drivers 6 way seat.
 

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Old Dec 2, 2019 | 11:28 AM
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Must have been difficult to part with a car with that many options. Considering how rare it is to see '71-'72 RR in the states, I can only imagine how rare a siting of your car would be in Europe!
I had forgotten that they came with chrome around the wheel-wells. Mine were wrecked when the big tires rubbed on them.
I like the blue!
 
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Old Dec 2, 2019 | 04:12 PM
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i owned it for over 20 years. i had my fun with it.
the biggest reason why i sold it was because compared to modern cars it was rather slow and didn't handle or stop that good. to modernize it would have required heavily modifying it. i would have felt bad doing that to such a rare car.
as far as 71/2 RR are had to get. i really don't agree with that to much. they are out there you have to look for them. but they really aren't worth a lot compared to a E body. and the bottom of the car is exactly the same. most E body floor pans, frame rails are basically the same between the 2 cars. the biggest difference is the cowl is 1" taller in the B body compared to a E body. pretty much all of the sheet metal is available now aftermarket so restoring one isn't that hard to do. in my opinion they drive better than a E body yet they are worth less than 1/2 of a E body. i have owned a few and helped restore about 25 E bodies so i do know a little bit about them.
another reason why i sold it was because i got a great deal on a wrecked 08 bullitt mustang with a clean title. heavily modifying it really doesn't kill the value. and modifying it can be done on the cheap compared to older cars. in my opinion they aren't really worth a lot from the start and in my lifetime they will never be extremely valuable. i have installed a built motor, supercharger, good trans, brakes, rear end, roll bar. the car makes 650 rwhp on pump 93. and much more on 110 no lead. the car weighs about 3200lbs fully dressed. has gone 9.98 140mh on 110 no lead. it had a 1.98 60 ft so there is more in it once i get the suspension dialed in.
best of all i only have $19K in it as it sits. i can't even build a good hemi for that amount.
 

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Originally Posted by mrt2you
i owned it for over 20 years. i had my fun with it.
the biggest reason why i sold it was because compared to modern cars it was rather slow and didn't handle or stop that good. to modernize it would have required heavily modifying it. i would have felt bad doing that to such a rare car.
as far as 71/2 RR are had to get. i really don't agree with that to much. they are out there you have to look for them. but they really aren't worth a lot compared to a E body. and the bottom of the car is exactly the same. most E body floor pans, frame rails are basically the same between the 2 cars. the biggest difference is the cowl is 1" taller in the B body compared to a E body. pretty much all of the sheet metal is available now aftermarket so restoring one isn't that hard to do. in my opinion they drive better than a E body yet they are worth less than 1/2 of a E body. i have owned a few and helped restore about 25 E bodies so i do know a little bit about them.
another reason why i sold it was because i got a great deal on a wrecked 08 bullitt mustang with a clean title. heavily modifying it really doesn't kill the value. and modifying it can be done on the cheap compared to older cars. in my opinion they aren't really worth a lot from the start and in my lifetime they will never be extremely valuable. i have installed a built motor, supercharger, good trans, brakes, rear end, roll bar. the car makes 650 rwhp on pump 93. and much more on 110 no lead. the car weighs about 3200lbs fully dressed. has gone 9.98 140mh on 110 no lead. it had a 1.98 60 ft so there is more in it once i get the suspension dialed in.
best of all i only have $19K in it as it sits. i can't even build a good hemi for that amount.
With 19K you could build a 950hp Hemi
 
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Old Dec 3, 2019 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by mrt2you
i owned it for over 20 years. i had my fun with it.
the biggest reason why i sold it was because compared to modern cars it was rather slow and didn't handle or stop that good. to modernize it would have required heavily modifying it. i would have felt bad doing that to such a rare car.
as far as 71/2 RR are had to get. i really don't agree with that to much. they are out there you have to look for them. but they really aren't worth a lot compared to a E body. and the bottom of the car is exactly the same. most E body floor pans, frame rails are basically the same between the 2 cars. the biggest difference is the cowl is 1" taller in the B body compared to a E body. pretty much all of the sheet metal is available now aftermarket so restoring one isn't that hard to do. in my opinion they drive better than a E body yet they are worth less than 1/2 of a E body. i have owned a few and helped restore about 25 E bodies so i do know a little bit about them.
another reason why i sold it was because i got a great deal on a wrecked 08 bullitt mustang with a clean title. heavily modifying it really doesn't kill the value. and modifying it can be done on the cheap compared to older cars. in my opinion they aren't really worth a lot from the start and in my lifetime they will never be extremely valuable. i have installed a built motor, supercharger, good trans, brakes, rear end, roll bar. the car makes 650 rwhp on pump 93. and much more on 110 no lead. the car weighs about 3200lbs fully dressed. has gone 9.98 140mh on 110 no lead. it had a 1.98 60 ft so there is more in it once i get the suspension dialed in.
best of all i only have $19K in it as it sits. i can't even build a good hemi for that amount.
Atleast you got the better looking body before Ford went with the catfish looking front end on the newer mustang. My wife inherited her father's 07 gt500 when he past away, I put on what parts he had sitting around for it. Basically just an exhaust from kooks. 1 5/8" long tube ss headers with a full 3" ss mandrel bent exhaust. And k&n CA intake. He had a dream of getting it to run 200 mph and we were gonna full fill his dream but no drag strip or high speed track will let us do it with out full roll cage and the wife doesn't and won't butcher the interior of the car to install a full roll cage, with seats and 5 point harness, and I don't blame her the car is beyond any money amount, and holds allot of sentimental value. We got it 4 years ago with 11,000 on the clock. It just broke 20,000. Sits in the garage mostly use it to run errands, shopping, or going out to eat occasionally on weekends. It's fun to drive, the supercharger never gets old. But I'm not much into the new so called muscle cars, seems like Everytime you turn around somebody has one. Camaro, mustang, Challenger, charger. Why I'm building up a 1st Gen ram. Not many around. But I would love to get my hands on an old muscle car pre 75. I'd like to get another 68 fury. Had one in high school 2003ish. Best car I ever owned, only had a 318 stock 2 barrel but still ran 120 mph flat out. Body and frame were bad, so I pulled the 318/727 and put it in a 92 4x4 Dakota converted to 2 wheel drive, had it running and moving just needed some pig tails for the tail lights and an exhaust and would have been ready to go. Sold it when we decided to say adios to NY.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2019 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by MoparFanatic21
With 19K you could build a 950hp Hemi
not on pump 93 octane you can't.
if you did it won't be daily driver quality, and it would be a massive gas hog. you would be lucky to get 10 on the highway with a OD trans. i get 20+ in my mustang on the freeway. i also know several GT500 owners making 1000+ on pump 93 and they get 15+ on the highway.
 
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