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Old Feb 20, 2020 | 02:18 PM
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Ok guys I'm going to design a steering kit to eliminate death wobble in our trucks. The kit will include a solid tie rod that goes from knuckle to knuckle, drag link, and 3rd gen style track bar with the bracket.

Now thinking it over and talking to the engineers (after logging data) the only way to make it bullet proof is to drill the knuckles out to 3/4". What do you guys think? Is this something you guys would be willing to do? Any suggestions?
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Old Feb 20, 2020 | 03:52 PM
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Drop the knuckles out to 3/4 inch? You mean, ream out the tie rod holes?

The biggest problem I see, is how the drag link attaches to the tie rod, on the HD steering. Ideally, the drag link should attach to the passenger knuckle separately from the tie rod. Problem then becomes, the drag link is a LOT longer than the track bar, and you end up with a serious case of bump steer. I think on our trucks, the inverted Y steering is actually a better design.... You get some toe change as the suspension cycles, but, at least it doesn't leave you with a huge dead spot in your steering.....
 
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Drop the knuckles out to 3/4 inch? You mean, ream out the tie rod holes?

The biggest problem I see, is how the drag link attaches to the tie rod, on the HD steering. Ideally, the drag link should attach to the passenger knuckle separately from the tie rod. Problem then becomes, the drag link is a LOT longer than the track bar, and you end up with a serious case of bump steer. I think on our trucks, the inverted Y steering is actually a better design.... You get some toe change as the suspension cycles, but, at least it doesn't leave you with a huge dead spot in your steering.....
Drill it out to 3/4s I fixed it
The drag link will attach to the passenger knuckle. Bump steer we have tackled but won't know until my truck (the test monkey) gets to driving. I am almost certain we have that figured out. It will have to use heim joints and I'm in the process of talking to a supplier they will guarantee them for at least double the life of a TRE. I just am curious if people are willing to drill out there knuckles
 
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For true cross-over steering? Yep. I would be.

How are you handling the different lengths of track bar, and drag link? That's is going to be the biggest contributor to bump steer.
 
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How this will be different from DOR-steering kit?
 
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How this will be different from DOR-steering kit?
Cheaper, better quality, and actually arrive in a timely manner
 
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For true cross-over steering? Yep. I would be.

How are you handling the different lengths of track bar, and drag link? That's is going to be the biggest contributor to bump steer.
Carli steering stabilizer. The kit will come with an option for dual steering stabilizers (one on drag link and one on the TREs) and /or full hydro kit like I will be running
 

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Old Feb 21, 2020 | 10:27 PM
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If I knew anything about that stuff, I would give an opinion lol. I'm all about buying and trying though.
 
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Originally Posted by racefan41
If I knew anything about that stuff, I would give an opinion lol. I'm all about buying and trying though.
It will have to be tested on my truck to make sure it actually works. I can't send defective products only problem is it's non reversible as the knuckles get drilled to 3/4 and take a bolt. If the knuckles were thicker it would go to 1"
 
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I have all sorts of opinions. Don't trust electricians with no eye brows, change is inevitable, except from vending machines, and don't fry bacon in the nude. Before you kick the can down the road, invest in another pair of steering knuckles. Maybe some from the bone yard. This way. if you sneeze and mis-drill the hole, you're not stuck. Consider this a development cost. Do what you need to do to get it right. Since you mentioned your company, check with your accountant as I believe development costs are tax deductible. I believe in paying my taxes but not more than I owe.
 
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