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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by HeyYou
That cam is designed for idle to 4800 RPM, a range the kegger is really good at. The airgap actually produces LESS power/torque below 4000 RPM than the stock kegger..... With your combo, I don't think spending that kind of money to get LESS power is such a good idea...... I could see doing the kegger mod though.... Unshrouding the runners inside the manifold will get you a few more ponies, though, it also tends to move the power band up a couple hundred RPM.....

Of course, the dyno test I am looking at for those results (on Hughes website.....) were on a stock tune, stock motor. With a custom tune, it *might* be better, bang for the buck? I don't think its there.
You would be correct as it builds power like the Hemis. I believe it was worth it just because you don't have to work about the Plenum lol. It does flow better. Plus looks cool
 
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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 06:38 PM
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Shorties will still help. Muffler really doesn't make any difference at all, unless it is REALLY restrictive. (which most aren't.) Muffler is all about the sound.
Ya. I must admit I'm not a fan of the sound now ever since I deleted the cat hahaha. The shorties will prob make it even more of a banshee
 
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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MoparFanatic21
You would be correct as it builds power like the Hemis. I believe it was worth it just because you don't have to work about the Plenum lol. It does flow better. Plus looks cool
Yah I have not down the plenum repair and that's kinda why I thought it maybe usefull. I just really want a custom tuner . The truck is sound but still is a dog towing
 
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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 09:23 PM
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Yah I have not down the plenum repair and that's kinda why I thought it maybe usefull. I just really want a custom tuner . The truck is sound but still is a dog towing
Most are even my stock Cummins was
 
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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MoparFanatic21
Most are even my stock Cummins was
Haha good to know. I'm getting pressured by a good friend to get a duramax but I love this truck to much to give up to deep in lol
 
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Haha good to know. I'm getting pressured by a good friend to get a duramax but I love this truck to much to give up to deep in lol
That's on you lol the best truck I had with towing was a 4th gen 2500 single cab short bed with the 6.4L Hemi
 
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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by MoparFanatic21
Most are even my stock Cummins was
Haha good to know. I'm getting pressured by a good friend to get a duramax but I love this truck to much to give up to deep in lol
 
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Originally Posted by MoparFanatic21
That's on you lol the best truck I had with towing was a 4th gen 2500 single cab short bed with the 6.4L Hemi
the 6.4 hey. Ya big motor for sure all a guys needs
 
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Late to the thread here are my thoughts on having run both. The airgap builds power at 3000rpm well, especially towing with O/D off at 3000rpm it would just take off when you rolled into it. However with a 4000lbs trailer I tried to pull on to a busy road up hill, not the steepest mind you but steep enough and it could only get to 2500rpm even at full throttle. Good thing the hill was short and 4 lanes, got a lot of dirty looks. I was dumfounded, on flat ground it would have not been an issue I just couldn't get the rpm for the airgap to take over. Keep in mind although not frequently I had towed 8000-10000k with a few 5.9s and didn't have that issue. The day before I sold the truck I swapped the kegger back on and a new thermostat (180). Felt like the same top end as the airgap (air gap also had a 52mm tb on it) with a 195 t-stat with much better bottom end torque. I have a v10 now but I have a wrecked durango I plan on getting back to and doing the mods with a kegger. I have been dealing with Marty at Utahsome performance on my v10 and he has some data and work on the kegger that's quite interesting. As well as some dyno testing with low lift tight lsa cams that make big torque and decent hp. Hope this helps with your decision. My red 5.9 durango had the runners shaved off in the kegger and that pulled like a dream. Now as I restore/fix it I am doing heads, cam, and probably a stroker crank, and tricked out kegger. Gonna take a few years to get done but should be a good combo.

6.4 just came out when I left the dealership and I managed to drive a few. Fantastic truck motor. Glad it got the 8spd finally.
 
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Originally Posted by adukart
Late to the thread here are my thoughts on having run both. The airgap builds power at 3000rpm well, especially towing with O/D off at 3000rpm it would just take off when you rolled into it. However with a 4000lbs trailer I tried to pull on to a busy road up hill, not the steepest mind you but steep enough and it could only get to 2500rpm even at full throttle. Good thing the hill was short and 4 lanes, got a lot of dirty looks. I was dumfounded, on flat ground it would have not been an issue I just couldn't get the rpm for the airgap to take over. Keep in mind although not frequently I had towed 8000-10000k with a few 5.9s and didn't have that issue. The day before I sold the truck I swapped the kegger back on and a new thermostat (180). Felt like the same top end as the airgap (air gap also had a 52mm tb on it) with a 195 t-stat with much better bottom end torque. I have a v10 now but I have a wrecked durango I plan on getting back to and doing the mods with a kegger. I have been dealing with Marty at Utahsome performance on my v10 and he has some data and work on the kegger that's quite interesting. As well as some dyno testing with low lift tight lsa cams that make big torque and decent hp. Hope this helps with your decision. My red 5.9 durango had the runners shaved off in the kegger and that pulled like a dream. Now as I restore/fix it I am doing heads, cam, and probably a stroker crank, and tricked out kegger. Gonna take a few years to get done but should be a good combo.

6.4 just came out when I left the dealership and I managed to drive a few. Fantastic truck motor. Glad it got the 8spd finally.
Ya I tow a 4000 pound camper as well and it does OK up the hills if i get my speed up in time. I do have 33 inch tires that do rob some of my power.
 
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