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Old Jul 14, 2021 | 06:36 AM
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While I had a plug pulled I cranked it over and saw that it was sparking when cranked.
You are getting spark so cam/crank sensors are working. If the plugs are covered in gas that can short the spark. Pull all the plugs and let it sit overnight to dry out. Put the plugs back in and try again.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2021 | 09:01 AM
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Still not starting after waiting overnight.

So it looks like there is spark and fuel, what else could prevent it from firing?

 
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Old Jul 14, 2021 | 09:58 AM
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Still not starting after waiting overnight.

So it looks like there is spark and fuel, what else could prevent it from firing?
Compression and air
 
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Old Jul 14, 2021 | 12:23 PM
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Too much fuel can cause a no start as well. Have you tried stomping the gas pedal to the floor, holding it there, and trying to start the engine?
 
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Old Jul 15, 2021 | 01:29 PM
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The motor is now running fine with out any codes. However I'm not sure what I have done to make this happen.

I have fiddled with the truck yesterday. I let the pressure off the fuel rail a few times and it seemed weak compared to the troubleshooting videos I watched. I pulled some vacuum hoses off the throttle body, unplugged the sensor in front of the throttle body plugged it back in, back probed cam sensor, crank sensor, injectors, etc. Then while I had my son in the driver seat turning the ignition for me, it started up and is running fine w no codes.

Today I drove it around the neighborhood a little and seemed fine.

I went to HF and bought an inexpensive fuel pressure tester. The fuel rail read 47 psi when key is switched on and 52 when running. 49 psi 15 minutes after turning off the ignition. So seems like fuel pump is operating at this time. Could be about to go I guess.

Any thoughts?
 
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Old Jul 15, 2021 | 01:39 PM
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Problem is fiddling with wires. You could of had a broken wire and unplugging the sensor made them contact enough to start. I always start my diagnoses with a visual inspection, the basics (fuel, air and spark), then I will gently move wires. When it starts by moving a certain loom I start there.

My problems 98% of the time are wiring issues. Did you look at the connector and the sensor to see if the pins look good? Maybe it just wasn't seated the whole way.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2021 | 01:50 PM
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I also start my troubleshooting the same way. I usually look at fuses first, then look for anything that's unplugged. Also, codes stored or pending help my initial direction of course. I unplugged, inspected, and replugged the sensor leads in, I also swapped the auto shut down relay w a good one and then back after no change. I looked at pretty much anything that would keep it from firing. ( I forgot to mention that I banged on the fuel tank yesterday too, no immediate change, I could still hear the pump cycle on ignition switched to on...)

I'm not convinced I fixed anything yet. I'll just have to drive it I guess.

I've driven the truck for going on 25 years now. I'm by no means a mechanic, but the truck has given me plenty of opportunities to improve my troubleshooting skills!
 
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Old Jul 15, 2021 | 05:36 PM
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Did you play with the temp sensor connector wires??
 
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Old Jul 15, 2021 | 08:09 PM
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I did not touch those intentionally, however I was laying across the engine a couple times while changing the crank sensor. So maybe?
 
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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 07:36 AM
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Since it was flooding out previously.... It's entirely possible. Have a look at the two-wire coolant temp sensor. Should be next to the thermostat housing. The connectors tend to get dry, and brittle, and fall apart.
 
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